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    Quote Originally Posted by GlenC View Post
    cruizer, What is your take on the 352MPa Plus setup? The XMT would only be if I wanted 400A stick or TIG, but not really needed, having 400A MIG...
    FWIW.... the MM350P is a 400 Amp MIG Machine @ 30% Duty Cycle ...

    See Section 4-2 on Page 12 (Page 16 of PDF)

    http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o1327ah_mil.pdf

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    I'm just looking at options and get caught up in "deals".... I can go MM252 for about $2300 and I would hope to find a MM350P around $3000 and can get a Invision 352MPa/S-74MPa around $4200... You know, spend an additional $2k to save $5K....

    All 3 machines are 1-phase...
    252 = 200A 60% 230V@46A (250A @ 40%, 300A @ 27%) MSRP $2,904
    350P = 300A 60% 230V@61A (350A @ 40%, 400A @ 30%) MSRP $5,404
    352MPa = 300A 60% 230V@54.6A (350A @ 40%) MSRP $10,705

    Probably don't need any of them, but cannot venture into doing anything needing power I don't have... I just need to get my old Cadillac sold and a friend pay back the $1k I loaned him, then the decision is much easier!
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    Since you are so open to hearing about other benefits, I will say on steel with my 350P I prefer to use .035 most of the time.
    The machine will pump enuf metal into all but the biggest projects and you can turn it down to nothing and weld super thin stuff as well
    I never use our 110v mig anymore.....the 350P simply covers the entire range in the shop.
    It would be be beneficial for you to run these machines before you buy if possible. Different machine have different arcs and the 350P arc is adjustable.
    On pulse spray you can adjust the length and width and on straight mig you can tune the inductance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FusionKing View Post
    Since you are so open to hearing about other benefits, I will say on steel with my 350P I prefer to use .035 most of the time.
    The machine will pump enuf metal into all but the biggest projects and you can turn it down to nothing and weld super thin stuff as well
    I never use our 110v mig anymore.....the 350P simply covers the entire range in the shop.
    It would be be beneficial for you to run these machines before you buy if possible. Different machine have different arcs and the 350P arc is adjustable.
    On pulse spray you can adjust the length and width and on straight mig you can tune the inductance.
    These are some of the reasons I am looking at the more advanced machines.... just like my buying a Cayenne to replace my Cherokee!
    Glen
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    Not really a good reference as the Cayenne break down constantly at $$$ expense

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruizer View Post
    Not really a good reference as the Cayenne break down constantly at $$$ expense
    Not really, got mine with 60K and now have 81K.... Oil changes, 1 plug coil, A/C fan motor.... It has been awesome!
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    /Had one , just a pain, I'll stick with my jeep Commander Hemi, and my several other toys

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruizer View Post
    /Had one , just a pain, I'll stick with my jeep Commander Hemi, and my several other toys
    Had an 06 Turbo...(got new...put 40k miles on it). all in all... am really glad we kept our old Audi Allroad... which is still a better car all the way around

    I did like the ignition key though... combination key, flashlight... mini Matchbox Cayenne effigy etc...

    But weren't we talking welders??.....

    For my money... it is still the MM350P... in the MIG category..
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    Millermatic 200

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    So looking at new Millers, is $1500 additional for the 350P over the 252 a okay or great deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlenC View Post
    So looking at new Millers, is $1500 additional for the 350P over the 252 a okay or great deal?
    Well, unless your going to be doing alot of thin wall steel, or aluminum, not really worth the price. Again, I'm a repair tech, so I don't have much to say about the welding point of view. However, I do know that the front display/programing board crashes alot in the MM350/p's

    The 252's appear to have sub menu issues when guys fool with settings they have no clue about, other wise don't have many failures

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