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    Default syncrowave 200 0r 250

    Hello all,

    I think this is a great message board, and everyone does a great job to help others out.

    This is my question. I dont know anything about electricity.

    I have a millermatic 251 mig welder and lincoln 175 tig welder.

    I want to buy a miller tig welder either the 200 or the 250.

    I was told that you need alot more power to run the 250.
    can someone explain to me what the diff is between the two?
    what is single phase 200/230 and 208/230?

    can i run the 250 syncrowave on the same power that i run the millermatic and the lincoln 175?

    any help would be great ,

    Doug

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    Default Welder

    I take it that those other 2 are running on a 220 volt or higher plug. If you have them on a breaker all alone from all your other stuff, you should have no worries about power. The only reason the 250 would draw more power is becasue it can weld on thicker material "Has more amps," the more amps you use the more power you use. Hope this helped

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    Your MM251 draws 48 amps max. The S200 draws 54 amps, and the S250 draws 88 amps (all @ 200 volt input). Assuming that you have adequate power for the 251, running a 200 shouldn't be a problem. You might run into trouble with the 250 if you run it at high amperage frequently.

    For comparison, a Dynasty 200 DX only draws 31 amps and a Dynasty 350 needs 47 amps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    Hello all,

    I think this is a great message board, and everyone does a great job to help others out.

    This is my question. I dont know anything about electricity.

    I have a millermatic 251 mig welder and lincoln 175 tig welder.

    I want to buy a miller tig welder either the 200 or the 250.

    I was told that you need alot more power to run the 250.
    can someone explain to me what the diff is between the two?
    what is single phase 200/230 and 208/230?

    can i run the 250 syncrowave on the same power that i run the millermatic and the lincoln 175?

    any help would be great ,

    Doug
    So I could run the 250 as long as iam using it on low amps, I have a 50 amp breaker now, what would I have to get 100 amp breaker if i want to use higher amps on the machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    So I could run the 250 as long as iam using it on low amps,
    Yes.

    I have a 50 amp breaker now, what would I have to get 100 amp breaker if i want to use higher amps on the machine?
    You can't just replace the breaker. You need to install the correct size of wire, or it will get hot/melt/start a fire before the breaker trips.

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    ok, thanks for the help.

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    I bought a 250 many years ago, and thought I would never really use it. When you get going on a big aluminum project, even something 1/8", its very easy to run 250-275 amps.
    Justin Starkey
    Syncrowave 250 TIGRunner
    Miller 210 MIG
    Spectrum 375 Plasma
    Ford and GM Dyno-tuning on the Moblie Dynojet trailer I built.
    VMP Tuning.com

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    after reading all of this iam wondering if I should look into the 200 dynasty dx.

    most of the welding I will be doing will be on aluminum.

    how does the 200 dx rank up with the 200syncrowave?

    wich one would would you get?

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    For aluminum the Dynasty wins hands down, IMO. I wish I had bought a 200DX instead of the PT185.

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    FWIW, I recently bought a dynasty 200dx. I had used it on a 120v/20a outlet and was able to get about 150 amps out of it. Recently, I tried the same machine on a 240v/20a outlet and we got 200 amps from it while it would comfortably weld 1/4" aluminum. With a little preheat, I'm confident you could do some 1/2" with it as well. The pulser and sequencer are nice features, besides the balance and frequency adjusters.

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