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    Default Small tig welders

    I have been looking around and pricing a few tig welders. I have a small project to do on my boat it has some cracked welds by the motor. Its about 1/8" aluminum. I have few other aluminum projects as well. I was wondering if the econo or the tigmate would do a decent job on these things. I have been searching for days> I cant find any pictures of aluminum welds with these types of welders. I've asked on other boards everyone says to buy a big tig welder. Does anyone here weld aluminum with these types of welders.

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    1/8" should only need 150 amps or less to weld. by small TIG welder do you mean in size like the Dyn200 or in amps like the econo tig ?? the price difference between the econo TIG and the syncrowave 200 is only about $350.oo i would recommend spending the extra $ to get the syncrowave. if its a question of needing to take the TIG welder to the boat on the dock to do the repairs, the Dyn200DX would be the best option here. as it works on 120V power it would be easy-est to power at the dock. another option would be the TA-185, its small and portable but dose not work on 120V. it will need 240V power to operate, but is an excellent choice if 240V is available.

    at 140 Lbs the econoTIG is not very portable. it also requires 240V 60amp circuit to power it.
    the syncrowave 200 would be a better choice for a shop option for the extra $350.00 again the power requirements would be 240V 60amp circuit. although the syncro is about 220 lbs, but has more top amps and lower low end amp options as well as a greater amount of control over the arc.
    the Dyn200DX would be the best choice for portability with its 120V option and only 45 lbs. its about $3,100.00 ready to weld if you have the $$ to spend or need 120V option. and full power on a 240V 30amp circuit.
    the TA-185 is about the same size as the Dyn 200DX but will only run on 240V 30 amp circuit, no 120V option. if you can live with 240V only the TA-185 would be an excellent option at about $2,100.oo ready to weld.

    any of the above welders would suit your needs for shop work, for mobile work the Dyn200DX or TA-185 would fit the bill depending on available power.

    bit long winded but i hope it helps.
    thanks for the help
    ......or..........
    hope i helped

    feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. james@newyorkmetalart.com
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    Thanks it's been years since ive tig'd. I remembered how fun it was. I think it was 1986. The machine was big. Everything is different now. More amps smaller packages. I havent been keeping up with it. I can back my boat up to the garage. I haven't heard anything but good things about the ta 185. The dynasty sounds even better but its $1k more. My wife dont wont me to buy any more welders. I have the old barn style ac lincoln in the garage. I've used it a bunch and it welds perfect. I need something that will do aluminum. Trying to keep the ol' lady happy also. Gotta keep the $ down

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    Quote Originally Posted by mildew View Post
    Thanks it's been years since ive tig'd. I remembered how fun it was. I think it was 1986. The machine was big. Everything is different now. More amps smaller packages. I havent been keeping up with it. I can back my boat up to the garage. I haven't heard anything but good things about the ta 185. The dynasty sounds even better but its $1k more. My wife dont wont me to buy any more welders. I have the old barn style ac lincoln in the garage. I've used it a bunch and it welds perfect. I need something that will do aluminum. Trying to keep the ol' lady happy also. Gotta keep the $ down

    Hmmm I may have a solution,
    do you have a decent OA torch setup?

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    O/A would be an option. if you want to stick to TIG and $$ is definitely a big decider. i still think the syncrowave 200 is well worth the $350 more than the econo TIG. get a decent 25 ft. torch and you should be good to go.

    if i could have provided the 60amp circuit needed for the syncrowave 200 it would be in my shop now. ( http://store.cyberweld.com/milsyn180sd2.html ) at $1,815.oo ready to weld delivered to the door is a hard deal to beat. if ya have the space and power its the way to go. Miller really loaded up the syncro200 when they stepped up from the syncro180. you might even be able to work out a deal to get the 25ft instead of the 12.5 ft torch, but i would recommend having both as the 25ft version could be a bit of trouble for most of the time when its not needed. as i understand it you should not leave it winded up wile welding. so you would have to unwind all 25ft even if just working at the table next to it.

    if power is a problem the TA-185 only needs a 240V 30 amp breaker and can be more space saving, although with cart and bottle mine takes up about as much space as the syncro would. but it could easily be put under a table or bench instead of on a large cart. at $2,000.oo last i heard ( i'll have to find ya a link) its the best bang for the buck in the inverter market. well best with a good solid reputation. i'm shore you can find a crappy import for less, but would it be worth it in the end. best to stick to well known solid welders. many here have them as do i, and all are happy with them.

    so with $$ as a concern those would be my choices in order of preference. some will say an inverter is always the best choice, others will argue. but thats my opinion be it good or bad its mine.
    good luck on your choices and hope to see some welds from ya soon. be shore to take lots of pic's. we just love pic's its like peeking into your shop.
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    thanks for the help
    ......or..........
    hope i helped

    feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat. james@newyorkmetalart.com
    summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
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    Thanks for the input. Whatever I get I'll be sure and post lots of pics

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