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  1. #1
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    Cool Responsibilities of the welding supervisor

    I have this welding supervisor with no welding back ground and I do mean no welding back ground.This person went to the CWB office did the 4 day seminar wrote a test and bingo your a welding supervisor.This person fells that they are not responsable for anything that I do pertaining to welding or fabrication.Meaning weld prep,weld process,Fitting,manufacturing of parts to be welded,not responsable period;nothing. So I called the CWB office
    I talked to them they have this person on file as the welding supervisor for where I work okay They had said that you do not need:..Welding tickets,
    welding experience, welding knowledge,Nothing of the sort to become a welding supervisor.So I went to this person and said you are responsable for any and all work that I do.This person denies that this is true so I proved it
    I brought out my CWB red seal book welding and fab and in both books in black and white print clearly states that all welding and fabrication that I do the welding supervisor is ultimately responsable period. This person refuses to beleave this.Even in the supervisors hand book clearly states it .So what is going on now is the manager is trying to make the problem mine.
    I said to the manager this position is worth and get this more than $0.50 cents
    per hour drop dead.

    What do you guy's think about this?

    Darmik

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    is this a cwb certified shop . the reason that i ask this is when i worked for
    BCRail we weren't cwb certified and our welding instructors were taken off of the floor and had to pass the same welding tests. when it came time to certify us for a pecticular job a welder from the floor beat out and exwelding instructor from BCIT as he couldn't pass the xray exam of the tests. i do agree with you that if you have it written in black and white then it should be the instructors responsibility in a cwb certified shop
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    Cool

    We are a union CWB shop. This person failed all position flux core
    and still maintaines there position.I do not have a problem with this but dont tell me that I'm responsable for what I do that's all I'm saying.So what is happening for the last 3 months now is I do all the welding and fab because there is only two of us and only one of us is certified.This person is still responsable.and this person still say's no no no no.Anyway I'm looking for a new job in hydraulics I can not work with people that are closed minded or just a moron.


    Darmik

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    [QUOTE=Darmik;5784..............I do not have a problem with this but dont tell me that I'm responsable for what I do that's all I'm saying.....I can not work with people that are closed minded or just a moron.


    Darmik[/QUOTE]

    I'm no welding expert ....heck I'm not even sure what CWB is but you should always be responsible for what you do.....even if you were told to do something by a supervisor and you knew better but did it anyway.
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    I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're being a whiney little girl. I know your kind. You're probably talking your co-worker's ears off about how this guy doesn't know anything and he shouldn't be in charge or whatever...and you're going to show him how stupid he is. You are an EMPLOYEE. Thank means there's a boss and he decided there's going to be a welding supervisor. He can probably learn a thing or two from you about welding, I'm sure. Give him a chance and realize your place in the food chain and you might end up good friends. You don't like it?....start your own company

    We're alright now?

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    sorry i mistoke your question about your welding supervisor responsibility!
    welding supervisor responsibility is to try and train a person how to weld in an specific enviroment ie -- welding booth -- &-- to follow proper procedures on engineered welding drawings who don't have any practicle welding experence
    thats where his reponsibility ends. To me yours starts everytime that you start a welder even if its for a coworker thats doing something that you know is unsafe which is your responsibility to do the best job that you are capable of
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    if you expect some else to take responsibility for your welding why are you are a welder once you pick up that hand piece the weld you make is your responsibility no one else
    if you think its not your responsibility give the game up before you kill someone with weld's you don't to be your responsibility for f*ck's sake

    thats the biggest cop out I've heard

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    Smile

    I am fairly new hear but non new to welding as I said in my very first post. I have been on all sides of this (THE WELDER / THE SUPERVISOR & NOW OWNER) in my 22 years as a welder (pipe & structural).I could not agree more that the welder’s responsibility begins the minuet he decides to down a welding shield and attempt to strake an arc. Me personally I am in love with welding and my wife and always have been sense the age of 16 . Yes welding has provided me and my family a pretty good life, and yet I would do it for free ( but my wife wont let me ) There is a shortage of welders in this country and from the owner point of view I would not wont to be losing my welders. OK hears were it kind of messed up for the welder. From the owner’s point of view , your very best and most certified welder is vital to the success of the project to have him do all that behind the seen stuff. So the owner would hares a guy that cant even carry the welders tool bag, but you see that behind the sees stuff can be a all day every day work load . You see the supervisor has to deal with management demands as well as having to stock the welders ego , as well as the paper work that comes with all of it ,that most of the time keeps him from leaving on time at end of the day when the welder headed home for a cold beer. So you see when we all love what we are doing, it all come together and more often than not the results are usually better in this country than anywhere else in the wold.

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    Darmik, understand that a welding supervisor is there to over see the welders,
    weld shop(or a specific weld area) AND YES the work thats gets done.BUT they're not responsible for the work (per-se) of the welder.YOU are responsible for the beads youre layin my friend as it should be.Reading of the print,layout,fit up, machining and of course first inspection...Also are YOURE responsibilities.If so deemed by youre company.ALL questions,CONCERNS that you have on the project should burn his EAR off and in return he should find the answer to the problem,and relay that info to you.AND guess what it's ONCE AGAIN IN YOURE HANDS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

    You cant presume that whatever you do its on him. NOPE.
    REMEMBER THIS IF NOTHING ELSE: YOURE WELD IS YOURE SIGINATURE, IT'S A PURE REFLECTION OF: a)HOW MUCH YOU KNOW AND b) How much you care about what it is you are doing.and c)The progress you are making in a and b

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    as a welder you are the first inspector and may be the only inspector if shop foreman has confidence in your welds so you have the responsibility for your welds.

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