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    Default 7014 verses 7018

    One of my welding buddies swears by 7014 rods. From what I've learned here, most folks carry 6010/11 and 7018. My 1960s welding book titled "Modern Welding" doesn't even list a 7014. I currently keep 6011 and 6013 rods on hand but thought I might switch to 6010 and 7018. Does this sound about right and what is the diffence in the coating of a 7014 verses 7018?

    I do mostly pipe fence welding, gates and some occasional structural welding.

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    6010 is a DC only rod while the 6011 is available in AC or DC versions. For what you are doing you do not need 7018 and it's rigid storage requirements. 7014 is an easy rod to learn with and makes nice beads with easily removed slag.

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    7014 is not a low-hydrogen electrode, so it doesn't have the storage requirements that 7018 has, as mentioned. It's an iron-power flux so it has a good deposition rate, too. It's a helluva lot more useful and user-friendly than 6013. 6010 and 6011 are the only 60-series rods I need to run.

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    Okay, so it looks like 6010 and 7014 are what I need to stock.

    By ridged storage requirements, I take it that you guys mean it will get eaten up a lot easier by moisture if I don't keep them stored properly?

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    7018 and the higher tensile low-hy electrodes must be DRY or you risk hydrogen embittlement and cracked welds. Once the factory seal is broken, they must be stored in an electrode oven at a certain temperature. For this reason, they shouldn't be recommended to most weekend warriors except for instant usage from the factory-sealed containers. Old electrodes should be used for practice or non-structural stuff only.

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    i bought some 7014 3/32 i cant get the hang of this stuff it seems to run so cold all the time is there any secrets for running this stuff .
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    yup, use in the flat position. Its the easiest rod out their and I also recommend it for the weekend warrior.

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    The 7014 is a great rod for irregular welding positions like runing an upward travel diagonal path. I have found a little long arc length works well with these rods. I use them a lot for general purpose welding around the farm as well as on galvanized fencing. They also work very well for filling gaps on poor fit ups.

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    7014 should not be used for uphill uphand work, but can be used for downhill downhand. My opinion, just use a 6010. When a 7014 is on a weldement that it can excell at, the rod will shine and give almost everybody great results. But, get it out of its proper element and you can be pulling hair out for a while. for this reason I find 6011 / 6010 more versatile. One nice thing about the 7014 is the easy to chip slag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coalsmoke
    7014 should not be used for uphill uphand work, but can be used for downhill downhand. My opinion, just use a 6010. When a 7014 is on a weldement that it can excell at, the rod will shine and give almost everybody great results. But, get it out of its proper element and you can be pulling hair out for a while. for this reason I find 6011 / 6010 more versatile. One nice thing about the 7014 is the easy to chip slag.

    Coalsmoke,

    For anything structural or critical I would not use a 7014 in any position. To me it falls into that 6013 general purpose (around the house/farm) welding rod class. It does do a nice job on galvanized fencing. MY preference is 6010/6011 and 7018 depending on the application. Sorry if my previous post was misleading.

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