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  1. #1
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    Default Old school HeliArc

    I lerned heliarc not tig and now i have this new Dynasty 200DX thing that make the programing of the VCR childs play..


    Any way A few things I don't get
    Lockout? why would I want to lockout the power switch?
    or lockout levels?

    Second is the RMT (remote) STD (standard)buton amd the RMT 2T Hold?

    Been reding the manual and I just don't get it.
    TJ______________________________________

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    Do they have a video to go with it? Call the tech support folks about getting some help.

    Jerry

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    Default Sounds complicated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fat-Fab.com View Post
    I lerned heliarc not tig and now i have this new Dynasty 200DX thing that make the programing of the VCR childs play..


    Any way A few things I don't get
    Lockout? why would I want to lockout the power switch?
    or lockout levels?

    Second is the RMT (remote) STD (standard)buton amd the RMT 2T Hold?

    Been reding the manual and I just don't get it.
    Sounds REALLY complicated. I love challenges. Maybe we should trade machines!
    Triggerman

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    "A professional knows what to do. A craftsman knows why."

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    HELIARC is just another name for TIG as I understand.

    I just recently hooked up my 300DX and read through the manual. The remote standard setting RMT or something like that, (not looking at my machine currently) is where you set the machine when you have a foot pedal. The RMT -2 and the other settings are for setting up the machine to run with an ON/OFF type remote for mimicing a pedal. I read about setting up the lockout, but not how to get past it once it's installed. When I turned my machine on for the first time it was automatically set up for ac welding at 200 amps, and away we welded.

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    yeah i think heliarc is just an old school name for tig welding becuz they used to use helium for the gas rather then argon, it burns a little hotter with helium from what i have learned

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    Heli-Arc was the trademark name that Linde sold their products under and is now the name that Esab uses legally...it is plain old tig. Just a term that old timers use like prestone or coke instead of the category..everybody does it somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FusionKing View Post
    Heli-Arc was the trademark name that Linde sold their products under and is now the name that Esab uses legally...it is plain old tig. Just a term that old timers use like prestone or coke instead of the category..everybody does it somewhere.


    Give that welder a prize!
    I have always called TIG Heli-Arc because of my father; he started welding in 1944 in a plant in Michigan making dies for stamping shell casings for large caliber artillery rounds.
    I started in 1978 using a Miller Gold Star, the old round top Heli Arc machine, using a Linde Heli-Arc torch.

    I went back to my LWS Air Gas were I purchased my Dynasty and took a lesson from the local guru of welding. Now that I understand the symbols on the control panel I am very impressed with not only the capabilities, but the function of this little dynamo.

    Twenty years a go I used a 110V tig machine made by Miller. It had the power of the Dynasty and no High Frequency and no AC. Boy aint progress great.



    Tj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat-Fab.com View Post
    I have always called TIG Heli-Arc because of my father; he started welding in 1944 in a plant in Michigan making dies for stamping shell casings for large caliber artillery rounds.
    Tj
    It amazes me that so many folks think the whole idea of being able to weld Stainless Steel or Aluminum is some gift from God, that just came along about 5 years ago.
    ..........

    In digging around for information on other things:

    I've found that alot of the Aircraft engine mounts from the 1930's, and WWII - were made from Alum. tubing, and look like Tinker-Toy projects (on Steroids made out of old lawn furniture frames) were in fact MIGed. on first generation wire feed machines.

    Heli-Arc was old technology prior to WWII too,,,,
    but from a manufacturer's standpoint-- as in 'war production', if you get a MIG machine set up for them, its easier and faster to train a assembly line worker to MIG things together than train them to use a TIG machine or Heli-Arc.


    I also had a Uncle who was a Navy type Avaition Metalsmith that got shot up pretty bad at Pearl Harbor. They didn't put him out for his injuries, but kept him 'ashore' to work on this rediculous concept of cutting Steel with a jet spray of water...........


    .
    "Gone are the days of wooden ships, and Iron men.
    I doubt we'll see either of their likes again".

    Circa 1920.
    Author:
    Unknown US Coast Guard unit Commander.

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    this is my first visit to your board. After 20 years of welding, I'm a welding student again at the local college in grayson county, texas and may have hints to pass along later. I bought my dynasty 200 dx for the size and portability because my old p&h was about the same size as my Jeep! Now, I'm having the same problems with my dynasty that I see on the board. I'm a simple soul and the bells and whistles on the dynasty are giving me a fit. can anybody give me base settings or parameter settings? thanks and happy new year from texas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    It amazes me that so many folks think the whole idea of being able to weld Stainless Steel or Aluminum is some gift from God, that just came along about 5 years ago.
    ..........

    In digging around for information on other things:

    I've found that alot of the Aircraft engine mounts from the 1930's, and WWII - were made from Alum. tubing, and look like Tinker-Toy projects (on Steroids made out of old lawn furniture frames) were in fact MIGed. on first generation wire feed machines.

    Heli-Arc was old technology prior to WWII too,,,,
    but from a manufacturer's standpoint-- as in 'war production', if you get a MIG machine set up for them, its easier and faster to train a assembly line worker to MIG things together than train them to use a TIG machine or Heli-Arc.


    I also had a Uncle who was a Navy type Avaition Metalsmith that got shot up pretty bad at Pearl Harbor. They didn't put him out for his injuries, but kept him 'ashore' to work on this rediculous concept of cutting Steel with a jet spray of water...........


    .
    I have an old and I MEAN OLD LIKE 80-PLUS friend that welded for McDonald-Douglass building fighter planes. He told me they sent him thru school to learn how to A/O weld aluminum not tig. I know he told me it was in WW-II
    so not everyone was using tig according to him. I would take this guys word for anything...believe it or not he is still working to this day...he's gonna go till he dies. He does trim carpenter work now and was the building trades teacher when I was in high school. He is my best friends father in law and everyone calls him "coach". I always wanted to get him to show me haw to do this but never did...it's a lost art.
    Some of those old O/A aluminum welds were good enuff to pass for tig today.

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