Thanks guys, seems I really needed to set the argon pressure with the trigger pulled to get the ~25cfm. On my regulator, that settles into 30-32cfm when not on the trigger. Now I can get at least a bead going. Sounds more like bacon now and the burn marks are a light grey with the point on the bead I just laid shiney silver (if I keep the gun over the weld after I stop welding) If I go that fast I can't ensure I'm closing the gap on the tank. Seems 55 and 3 works ok. Trying to weld from the outside cornor is a disaster, and looks like sh*^. Now I'm not to concerened what the inside looks like, but the outside makes a difference. Looks like I'm in the market for a TIG.