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    I always figured that if a guy could roll a fair joint he has the hand eye coordination to be a pretty good welder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbramble View Post
    I just graduated from the local vo-tech's pipe welding course. Not that I am interested in pipe welding, I just wanted to learn how to weld and this is what was available and the VA paid for it.
    If you catch on quick a pipe course would be a good way to learn. I went to welding school in a com college. I wasn't in the top of my class, well I was but it really didn't have a lot to do with welding other than I could pass all position open butt test plates. I also did apprenticeship and parts, 2 years of a couple more trades. People that have been thru trade school teach better than those who don't, usually, and those that been to 1 learn better.
    I got a long story with welding and some zig zag route. One regret which I had intended right out of the box was I didn't spin on a pipeline. It would have been a natural fit. There was enough local, the on.off dynamics would have been better than iron.
    Welding is super fluid in the job market, as an auxiliary skill or primary occupation.
    I installed signs, some passable guys but never ran in to one that could weld at a real high level, I am sure they are there and schools will help in places so much of the learnin is hand to mouth. Same for farming but they are getting better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aametalmaster View Post
    Pretty much the same here. Top rates in a shop is 20 bucks and you need to have a bunch of skills to get that. I mean fitting and welding with more on the fitting. There are kids coming right of vo tech and welding schools that start for about 12 bucks and most of them only last weeks and can't cut the early wake up alarm. The sad part is most owe 12 grand to the school with the promise of good pay and the pay isn't great unless the kid has great skills. Granted the road guys make more but i don't want to speak for them as i only see what goes on in the shop. My buddy is an HR guy at a local trailer shop and he sees about 150 new guys a year. Most leave for whatever reason and some can't pass a pee test. We hired a guy last Monday and he is gone already...Bob
    Factories here pay 13.00 and change and have a large turn over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aametalmaster View Post
    Pretty much the same here. Top rates in a shop is 20 bucks and you need to have a bunch of skills to get that. I mean fitting and welding with more on the fitting. There are kids coming right of vo tech and welding schools that start for about 12 bucks and most of them only last weeks and can't cut the early wake up alarm. The sad part is most owe 12 grand to the school with the promise of good pay and the pay isn't great unless the kid has great skills. Granted the road guys make more but i don't want to speak for them as i only see what goes on in the shop. My buddy is an HR guy at a local trailer shop and he sees about 150 new guys a year. Most leave for whatever reason and some can't pass a pee test. We hired a guy last Monday and he is gone already...Bob
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    [QUOTE=aametalmaster;319743]Pretty much the same here. Top rates in a shop is 20 bucks and you need to have a bunch of skills to get that. I mean fitting and welding with more on the fitting. There are kids coming right of vo tech and welding schools that start for about 12 bucks and most of them only last weeks and can't cut the early wake up alarm. The sad part is most owe 12 grand to the school with the promise of good pay and the pay isn't great unless the kid has great skills. Granted the road guys make more but i don't want to speak for them as i only see what goes on in the shop. My buddy is an HR guy at a local trailer shop and he sees about 150 new guys a year. Most leave for whatever reason and some can't pass a pee test. We hired a guy last Monday and he is gone already...Bob[/QUOTE
    Here in west KY factories pay 13.00 and change and use temp agencies too. sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by aametalmaster View Post
    Pretty much the same here. Top rates in a shop is 20 bucks and you need to have a bunch of skills to get that. I mean fitting and welding with more on the fitting. There are kids coming right of vo tech and welding schools that start for about 12 bucks and most of them only last weeks and can't cut the early wake up alarm. The sad part is most owe 12 grand to the school with the promise of good pay and the pay isn't great unless the kid has great skills. Granted the road guys make more but i don't want to speak for them as i only see what goes on in the shop. My buddy is an HR guy at a local trailer shop and he sees about 150 new guys a year. Most leave for whatever reason and some can't pass a pee test. We hired a guy last Monday and he is gone already...Bob
    Here in West KY factories pay 13.00 and change and use temp agencies a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    it seems like the world of welding really took a turn in the 2008 financial collapse. dont get me wrong, things have been falling apart way before this, but this down turn pushed it over the top. fabrication has been out sourced, what fabrication that is left may well be robotic welding, a horse of a different color. i am in new hampshire, the live free or die state, where industry was always welcomed, there are many welding jobs. just about all of them are for tig work. if you are good at tig, you are in a god position, but if you have mastered stick and flux core, i would suggest following the oil and gas dollars, also the ship yards. most ads for mig welders are no experience needed jobs, its tough out there, i have a friend who has a mountain of certs, he has done well in the nuclear industry, you need to be really good with tig for this. if i had to do it all over again, knowing what i know now, i would work in the best of ship yards, the bigger yards, i wont name names, i have been out of that area for too long of a time to speak accuratly about them now. good luck and keep us posted
    Here in West KY factories pay 13.00 and change and use temp agencies a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aametalmaster View Post
    Pretty much the same here. Top rates in a shop is 20 bucks and you need to have a bunch of skills to get that. I mean fitting and welding with more on the fitting. There are kids coming right of vo tech and welding schools that start for about 12 bucks and most of them only last weeks and can't cut the early wake up alarm. The sad part is most owe 12 grand to the school with the promise of good pay and the pay isn't great unless the kid has great skills. Granted the road guys make more but i don't want to speak for them as i only see what goes on in the shop. My buddy is an HR guy at a local trailer shop and he sees about 150 new guys a year. Most leave for whatever reason and some can't pass a pee test. We hired a guy last Monday and he is gone already...Bob
    western KY temp agencies have taken over; 13.00 and change and big turn over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coxey2 View Post
    western KY temp agencies have taken over; 13.00 and change and big turn over.
    Sorry for the reposts. virus...

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    Being able to pass the drug screen, most important if you want to make decent money. I earn 2-3 times the income of those who can't pass. Customers demand safe companies these days. Drug and alcohol screening is one tool they use to accomplish this. I know, everyone has an opinion on drug screens and relevance, blah blah blah, but reality says that safe workers are sober workers. So my advice for someone interested in a welding career is: Learn more than you need to know for the job, it can lead to a promotion later; show up to work able to pass a drug and alcohol screen--early; work hard; never stop educating yourself- read books, watch videos, practice on your own time.

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