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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfTaught View Post
    I see what you're saying. These jobs will more or less be my bread and butter starting out. I REALLY enjoy fabrication but that will come in time. Stick with the bread and butter, get my name out there and the rest will come (I hope).
    Thank you for your advice and believe me I am listening.
    I have a feeling that after working with your friend for a few days, you will find the majority of what he does involves the BC. You should be trying to get yourself rigged up similarly. You already know the BC can be used for TIG with the right torch. I would think the same torch could be used on the Dynasty when you get it later. What you may not realize though is that the BC can also MIG weld with a spool gun and the appropriate contactor box. With these additions, you can now TIG, MIG and stick weld with the BC, and all portable with no concerns about a separate power supply. Now you can do more with this set up than you could have done with the Dynasty and genset. Not to mention, you can weld thicker material than with the Dynasty. A Dynasty would be more appropriate to use in a shop setting or somewhere that you can't get an engine drive close to. But in the mean time, you could use the HH 140 for most of those jobs. So you came here looking for suggestions on getting set up for portable welding work, and I recommend getting the BC with a TIG torch and spool gun, then get the Dynasty later after you start making some money with the BC or possibly a Trail Blazer if you can swing it. A Trail Blazer will give you a few more options over the BC, so check the specs on some of them before you totally commit to getting a BC.
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    Thumbs up Trailblazer.. 14 pin...

    One suggestion...

    If you are going to buy an engine drive like the Bobcat.. and plan on adding a suitcase feeder or TIG aluminum with an HF box like a HF-251 or MIG with a spoolgun like a 30A

    You will find the whole proposition MUCH simpler and happier if you go the extra bit and get an AC/DC Trailblazer.... Having that 14 pin works SO much better... things integrate easier...

    the price differential goes away once you try to integrate those extra capabilities...

    just a thought..
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    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

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    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    One suggestion...

    If you are going to buy an engine drive like the Bobcat.. and plan on adding a suitcase feeder or TIG aluminum with an HF box like a HF-251 or MIG with a spoolgun like a 30A

    You will find the whole proposition MUCH simpler and happier if you go the extra bit and get an AC/DC Trailblazer.... Having that 14 pin works SO much better... things integrate easier...

    the price differential goes away once you try to integrate those extra capabilities...

    just a thought..
    EXACTLY. That is where I was leading to in my last two sentences of my last post.

    Either way, I feel it would be best to get the major piece of welding equipment FIRST(the engine drive) then tailor the rest of the equipment purchases around that, with a view to future expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bistineau View Post
    EXACTLY. That is where I was leading to in my last two sentences of my last post.

    Either way, I feel it would be best to get the major piece of welding equipment FIRST(the engine drive) then tailor the rest of the equipment purchases around that, with a view to future expansion.
    FWIW... if you are planning on doing a lot of mobile TIG....

    IMHO.. an engine drive & HF box make for a pretty mediocre TIG setup..

    A generator and Dyn 200DX... has been the hot tip...

    I have done both... sold my last TB301G a while back and run genny & Dynasty for mobile TIG.... but my stuff is probably atypical... I do almost no stick these days.. and my mobile TIG is better characterized as "on site" and not neccesarily outdoor...
    outside TIG as mentioned before is subject to breezes, weather and other pitfalls

    That being said... for an all around rig... a Trailblazer outfitted with suitcase, HF-251, pedal, 30A.. etc... makes for a pretty decent setup..

    How you configure your rig is dependant on the work you intend to do..
    Last edited by H80N; 02-21-2014 at 07:33 PM.
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    “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

    My Blue Stuff:
    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

    TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus Mills, Lathes & a Rat Tail File..

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    Once again, all good advice!
    I read your replies earlier and started researching the trailblazer line. I am unfamiliar with them but I am sure it wouldn't take long to learn.
    Now here is the kicker.....
    I looked on craigslist and found a NEW trailblazer 302 and a slightly used miller 350p for the low low price of 6500........I smell a scam. Kinda worried about even calling about it. Looked up the 350p and it sells for over 5k by itself. He also has pictures of the 302 and it still has the tags on it and is sitting on the bottom half of the packing box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfTaught View Post
    Once again, all good advice!
    I read your replies earlier and started researching the trailblazer line. I am unfamiliar with them but I am sure it wouldn't take long to learn.
    Now here is the kicker.....
    I looked on craigslist and found a NEW trailblazer 302 and a slightly used miller 350p for the low low price of 6500........I smell a scam. Kinda worried about even calling about it. Looked up the 350p and it sells for over 5k by itself. He also has pictures of the 302 and it still has the tags on it and is sitting on the bottom half of the packing box.
    the price does sound too good to be true..

    You could get the serial numbers and call Miller to find out if they have been reported stolen.. I believe they keep a database of stolen machines..
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    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know......

    “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

    My Blue Stuff:
    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

    TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus Mills, Lathes & a Rat Tail File..

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    Oh yeah, I will be going to my friends house monday. He's gonna show me the basic in and outs. In return I will be helping him with a custom wrought iron bed. Really need to learn how to charge for my services and the best place to purchase metal in this area.
    We will also be getting a foot pedal and a thumb control for our syncrowave at work (don't know which i will like better). I can't wait to try them out and learn something new. As I said all I have ever done is scratch start tig so it will be interesting to learn something new.

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    How you set up your rig is dependent on what type of work is available in your area. It doesn't matter what type of work you want to do if it's not there. Many guys want to do something & set up accordingly, spend the money & then are bust in 6 months.

    Do the research in your area. What type of companies would use a welder? What type of welding is typical to their situation? What equipment is needed for this particular type of welding. Why would they hire me over the established guy? (rate cutting doesn't work) How would I break into this by only working part time & off hours? Plan it out before spending money.
    MM250
    Trailblazer 250g
    22a feeder
    Lincoln ac/dc 225
    Victor O/A
    MM200 black face
    Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
    Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
    Arco roto-phase model M
    Vectrax 7x12 band saw
    Miller spectrum 875
    30a spoolgun w/wc-24
    Syncrowave 250
    RCCS-14

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    Selftaught wrote -- "I will be going to my friends house monday. He's gonna show me the basic in and outs. In return I will be helping him with a custom wrought iron bed. Really need to learn how to charge for my services and the best place to purchase metal in this area."

    This quote shows you are a long way from starting a business but it is a great first step. I would work for him or someone else for awhile before committing to spending cash. If you don't know about accounting & taxes, particularly business taxes, then learn it. You don't need to be a pro but you do need to understand how it works & rates etc. because it is easy to make costly mistakes without realizing it.
    MM250
    Trailblazer 250g
    22a feeder
    Lincoln ac/dc 225
    Victor O/A
    MM200 black face
    Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
    Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
    Arco roto-phase model M
    Vectrax 7x12 band saw
    Miller spectrum 875
    30a spoolgun w/wc-24
    Syncrowave 250
    RCCS-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfTaught View Post
    Oh yeah, I will be going to my friends house monday. He's gonna show me the basic in and outs. In return I will be helping him with a custom wrought iron bed. Really need to learn how to charge for my services and the best place to purchase metal in this area.
    We will also be getting a foot pedal and a thumb control for our syncrowave at work (don't know which i will like better). I can't wait to try them out and learn something new. As I said all I have ever done is scratch start tig so it will be interesting to learn something new.
    Both types of controller have their own place.
    Griff

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