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    Default Dynasty 200 DX - Convince me!

    I'm considering a TIG welder in the 200 to 250A range.

    The Dynasty 200 DX fits that bill, but at more than twice the price of other TIG welders with the same features, I need convincing by those telling me why from a technical point of view, the Dynasty is better made.

    First of all, where (in detail) is the welder made? I'm not talking about the discreet components because they have been made off-shore by all major electronics manufacturers for ages. I'm talking about the boards, the transformers...the major components. Miller was vague on this in an e-mail to me the other week.

    Where is the foot pedal made? In another manufacturer's forum, some members have had issues with belts coming off the cog on their foot pedal. I mean, its a simple low tech item like a foot pedal...how can it not work reliably? Even as a hobbyist not making my living with my equipment, I do not have any patience for tools that do not work....they get flung through the garage door opening at warp speed.

    So convince me. I'd like to hear from owners who use this welder on a daily basis at work. I already have an expert welder who uses a Dynasty 700 on a daily basis where I used to work giving me tips. He also pointed out Everlast and Longevity welders to me, so that has me wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In My Garage View Post
    I'm considering a TIG welder in the 200 to 250A range.

    The Dynasty 200 DX fits that bill, but at more than twice the price of other TIG welders with the same features, I need convincing by those telling me why from a technical point of view, the Dynasty is better made.

    First of all, where (in detail) is the welder made? I'm not talking about the discreet components because they have been made off-shore by all major electronics manufacturers for ages. I'm talking about the boards, the transformers...the major components. Miller was vague on this in an e-mail to me the other week.

    Where is the foot pedal made? In another manufacturer's forum, some members have had issues with belts coming off the cog on their foot pedal. I mean, its a simple low tech item like a foot pedal...how can it not work reliably? Even as a hobbyist not making my living with my equipment, I do not have any patience for tools that do not work....they get flung through the garage door opening at warp speed.

    So convince me. I'd like to hear from owners who use this welder on a daily basis at work. I already have an expert welder who uses a Dynasty 700 on a daily basis where I used to work giving me tips. He also pointed out Everlast and Longevity welders to me, so that has me wondering.
    A Zillion threads on this over the last 10 or so years...

    do some searching and be prepared for a LOT of reading ...
    you shall find your answer...

    The Dynasties are the finest TIG machines I have ever used and are continually evolving and improving..

    long term track record means a lot to those of us who depend on our tools..

    and yes... quality costs more.. not only the build quality and technology of the machine but the quality of the organization that stands behind it and support network as well

    whether it is worth it for you is a question that only you can answer

    quality tools can be a substantial investment..

    BTW... they are built in Appleton, Wisconson...

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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    quality tools can be a substantial investment..
    I know. I have been using a very expensive name brand set of mechanics hand tools since 1975 (and I do not make a living with them as a hobbyist)...no names because I do not want to start a this is better than that debate. No regrets!

    I will search and see what I come up with. The trouble is, most are very hesitant to post anything negative (although factual) on forums.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by In My Garage View Post
    I know. I have been using a very expensive name brand set of mechanics hand tools since 1975 (and I do not make a living with them as a hobbyist)...no names because I do not want to start a this is better than that debate. No regrets!

    I will search and see what I come up with. The trouble is, most are very hesitant to post anything negative (although factual) on forums.

    Thanks!
    Ive found just the opposite. For every one positive post - there are 10 complaining. Very few spend time expressing their happiness with a product

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    Although I have not used the Everlasting Longevitidal machines, I have used Linclone and ThermalArc inverter tigs that use the same Euro interface and let me tell you the Dynasty 200DX is simple. In fact the default parameters and Blue Lightning settings are all but spot on. The clearance effect that the Chinese stuff uses is still a mystery to me. Actually yes I did weld once with a Longevitude at SoCal Weld-O-Rama, that lasted about 5 minutes before the start circuit failed.
    Couple that with the unrivaled support I get from Miller and my LWS. Mail-Order Mayhem is not something I relish with my production equipment.

    My personal Dynasty200DX is mounted to a dolly that I can load in my Subaru Truck myself, and when unloaded wheel into a hospital elevator and do SS repair on any floor plugged into house-current. I can also weld light Alum. I have been in clean rooms, restaurants, defense plants, and other places that require portable welding. Then plug into 230 volts at work, or my generator at home and weld full tilt.

    A simple push of the polarity button gets you either to AC or DC, and since it has last use memory, you don't have to reset the thing every time you power it up. Did I forget to mention Blue Lightning arc start with tungsten size for choice of start force, pre-programed for you in advance for your welding pleasure????
    Nothing welded, Nothing gained

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    Default Dynasty 200DX

    Quote Originally Posted by kize View Post
    Ive found just the opposite. For every one positive post - there are 10 complaining. Very few spend time expressing their happiness with a product
    This is the same old things about planes, some people say planes are unsafe....

    That's only be cause you only hear about the one that crashed, not the 100,000 that flew fine.............

    I bought 2 200's a few years ago, and just love them, had a invertec 205 which is the direct one to the miller(well as close to the same) and it's not a bad machine but the miller is just higher on the scale.

    I took a tour of the Miller plant in Appleton from Andy and what a place just awesome, so I asked why miller had so many more inverters over the red, simply put: Miller owns the patents to the inverter technology.

    Sone of the tests they put on these machines before you get them is pretty hard on them, to get one that does not do what it should is not very likely.

    If ya ever get a chance to see it, it's worth it.....

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    Hey Railmen,

    while you did the plant tour, did any of the guides mention specific industrial models like the dynasty/maxstar 300 series or the aerowave models?

    Maxstar300lx

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    Quote Originally Posted by kize View Post
    Ive found just the opposite. For every one positive post - there are 10 complaining. Very few spend time expressing their happiness with a product
    True. I guess I meant people will go to the extremes protecting their purchase if anyone says anything negative about it. Fair enough, but when everybody does so for every product, then all products must be perfect...which is not likely.

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    Its been a while since I've been on here. For some reason I just started getting e-mail notices to replies on this thread.

    Anyway, I ended up buying an Everlast PowerTIG 250EX after watching countless hours of Welding Tricks and Tips on YouTube. He uses one and also does comparisons. I also watched a lot of very well done Miller videos on YouTube.

    I paid $1655 with a spare air-cooled torch (it comes with a water-cooled torch) and with the Miller discounted to just over $4000, that was hard to justify as a hobbyist and retired on less than half my working salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In My Garage View Post
    I know. I have been using a very expensive name brand set of mechanics hand tools since 1975 (and I do not make a living with them as a hobbyist)...no names because I do not want to start a this is better than that debate. No regrets!

    I will search and see what I come up with. The trouble is, most are very hesitant to post anything negative (although factual) on forums.

    Thanks!
    i'll post negative things about any brand that has problems. The 200DX really has none. There are minor preventative maintainance things that have to be done though, but that applys to all machines. A comparision would be the Miller 200 dx or the Thermal arc (Tweco) 201

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