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    Default Miller copyright question

    Found a picture I'd like to use on a personal business card, but not sure if it would be infringing on any of Miller's copyrights.

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    Basic Copyright law = No, you are not allowed to reproduce the Logo unless you have the owner's permission.

    Corporations have very strict rules on how their Logo can be used so I doubt they will give you permission.
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    I hope some official from Miller would chime in here. I use all Miller equipment. I see welding businesses with stickers with the Miller logo on them all the time. So if you had it on a card signifying the kind of equipment you use, I think it would be free advertising.
    Anyone commenting from Miller with the policy would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobysky View Post
    I hope some official from Miller would chime in here. I use all Miller equipment. I see welding businesses with stickers with the Miller logo on them all the time. So if you had it on a card signifying the kind of equipment you use, I think it would be free advertising.
    Anyone commenting from Miller with the policy would be appreciated.
    Don't give up yet...

    our opinion does not matter...

    BUT

    if you are advertising that you proudly use Miller equipment... that does sound like fair use...

    I have seen many independant welder's business cards with the Miller logo proclaiming they use Miller equipment ... so this would not be a new situation...

    All you need is confirmation from an official at Miller...

    we could just bump this thread to keep it near the top till you get a response...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobysky View Post
    Found a picture I'd like to use on a personal business card, but not sure if it would be infringing on any of Miller's copyrights.

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    Hi Gobysky,
    Email your request to use the image (and the image you would like to use) to webmaster@millerwelds.com. They'll be able to help you from there!

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    Default Miller copyright question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobysky View Post
    Thank you
    Please Keep Us Posted on how that goes....
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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    Please Keep Us Posted on how that goes....

    They said we couldn't use their Wallpaper on our cards, but directed me to this site ( http://images.millerwelds.com/main.php ) of images of their products that we could use.

    I'm fairly good with Photoshop, I'll have to take the time to create my own proprietary image. Lots of good ideas you can Google, and then work from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobysky View Post
    They said we couldn't use their Wallpaper on our cards, but directed me to this site ( http://images.millerwelds.com/main.php ) of images of their products that we could use.

    I'm fairly good with Photoshop, I'll have to take the time to create my own proprietary image. Lots of good ideas you can Google, and then work from there.
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    Default Copyright vs Trademark

    It's a minor distinction, but still one worth noting. The image most likely would not be covered by copyright law, but rather by trademark. The process for registering is different, as are the laws regarding usage. For example, some copyrighted material can be reproduced without permission (Doctrine of Fair Use) but the rules are very strict and can easily be misinterpreted. However, trademarks must have permission for reuse and that is very difficult to obtain.

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