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    Default Water-cooled tig torch conversion fail

    Morning all,
    I have a slight issue that I was hoping this group could help me with. I recently finished converting my syncrowave 200 to a water cooled torch. I went to weld some aluminum for the first time after converting and I cannot get it to weld, seams like I'm not getting any etching action and the weld pool instantly contaminates. Can't add any filler or anything. I swapped to my air cooled torch and it runs perfect. Not sure what ls what's going on. Here's my current set up.




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    It does not look like you used a 195380 dinse adapter. How did you hook up weld power and water to the torch?
    The adapter wil facilitate hook up of power(return water) and gas.

    Does you cooler have an Oberdorfer pump or Procon?
    Last edited by big mike; 12-11-2013 at 08:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big mike View Post
    It does not look like you used a 195380 dinse adapter. How did you hook up weld power and water to the torch?
    The adapter wil facilitate hook up of power(return water) and gas.

    Does you cooler have an Oberdorfer pump or Procon?
    Not sure at all about the cooler. As for the adapter it is the correct one. Seporate a the gas and return water, sure wasn't cheap.

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    I was thinking since I have the return-water and to-water bolted to the machine that it was grounding out. I unhooked them from the machine with no change. Next I'm going to separate the return and feed/to water from each other and see if that resolves the issue.

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    I can't see clearly if they are hooked up this way but I believe it should be,
    Red(power cable) into the back of the Dinse
    Red from the Dinse to the cooler
    Blue to the cooler
    Black to the Dinse

    Are you sure you don't have a bad power cable?

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    I would ask what coolant fluid you are using??

    water?

    distilled water??

    premixed low conductivity TIG coolant??

    car antifreeze??

    would also ask the brand and model of water cooled torch and collets... some of the soft chinese copper collets can crush and restrict argon flow.... leading to symptoms you described...
    Last edited by H80N; 12-11-2013 at 09:35 AM.
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    Running esab torch coolant, torch is new/untested. Water and power leads are hooked up correctly. The torch it self is a CK swivel head.

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    I also tried raising the argon pressure too because it's acting like low gas flow or none at all but raising the pressure didn't change a thing. You can clearly hear and feel the argon flow coming out of my gas lense.

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    Quite l ikely that the torch is hooked up backwards. The current carring conduit is the return line. The torch head is what must be cooled first. Its the other way, the conduit is cooled, however the head gets way hot and trouble happens shortly after.

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