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    Quote Originally Posted by JSFAB View Post
    Probably limited amperage, just enough to run a circulation motor. Special plug so some idiot doesn't plug a high amp grinder into it, and fry all the electronics.
    Never had a problem plugging my high amp grinder into any other tig machine, say for instance my Dynasty350.
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    So, for instance, why don't you buy one of those great machines?
    Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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    I get asked questions as to why something works the way it does, and what function does what. What machine I like or don't like. Sort of a independent advisor.. since I've been repairing machines for more than 20 years. If someone wanted a machine and called Miller, well that machine will be the best, same with Lincoln, Victor, ESAB Excetera..... I do know the ones that won't last and why, I know which engine drives to buy and ones to stay away from.

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    Socket abuse..?????????????????

    The Coolmate 1.3 draws 15 amps…. So… would it be safe to assume that the “Cooler Power” outlet can provide at least 15 amps..??

    How many amps is it fused for..??

    Even if it is powered by an aux inverter to provide the 120vac…. Why would it care what was plugged into it as long as it was below the fused limit..??

    Why would it care if it were a grinder, exhaust fan or lamp??

    And if I understood the post properly.. the “Cooler Power” outlet is hot any time the welder is turned on… is that correct… ??

    You lost me when we got to the part about the outlet being controlled by software..??? Explanation???

    it is presently hardwired?? or otherwise coupled to input power by firmware??...
    is it dynamicly PC adressable through a port??
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    Whoops The Coolmate 1.3 draws (6) amp on 115Vac.
    There is limited protection with a 10 amp breaker, unsure why Miller wants 15 amps available on a 10 amp breaker

    And if I understood the post properly.. the “Cooler Power” outlet is hot any time the welder is turned on… is that correct… ?? Yes


    You lost me when we got to the part about the outlet being controlled by software..??? Explanation??? Eventually they are saying as some point they will figure out a better way to control the cooler. They use a sim card for updating and such. most others use ethernet and a laptop, but a sim card is ok.


    Last edited by cruizer; 12-11-2013 at 07:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruizer View Post
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    Whoops The Coolmate 1.3 draws (2) amp on 115Vac.
    There is no protection, motor blows, your cooler supply module blows, and likely other damage.
    Cruizer..

    are you making funnies on us

    Coolmate 1.3 manual says fused for 15 amps...

    and steady state 115 Volt Models Use 5.9 Amperes, 60 Hertz, Single-Phase Input Power


    http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o257811a_mil.pdf

    and the outlet is NOT fused??

    Are you surmising or do you know these answers...??

    Sure could use some input from somebody on the development team...

    some of this defies logic...
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    [QUOTE=H80N;315053]Cruizer..

    are you making funnies on us

    Coolmate 1.3 manual says fused for 15 amps...

    It says 5.9 amps @ 115 Vac, it is on a 10 amp machine breaker, was looking at a coolmate 1 at the 2 amps. The coolmate 1, I noticed has a thermal incase the motor wants to bake.

    The 1.3 has no thermal, nor any internal protection. So it poofs, alotta things go poof with it.

    Do you see any protection on the wiring diagram,,,,,

    Surmizing not really, just going through the wiring diagram in the service manual, There is no Coolmate 1.3 in the service manuals yet, just a parts break down for it in the 280 manual

    Now this is all hear say, Its probably a marvelous machine. Haven't seen any yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruizer View Post
    Cruizer..

    are you making funnies on us

    Coolmate 1.3 manual says fused for 15 amps...

    It says 5.9 amps @ 115 Vac, it is on a 10 amp machine breaker, was looking at a coolmate 1 at the 2 amps. The coolmate 1, I noticed has a thermal incase the motor wants to bake.

    The 1.3 has no thermal, nor any internal protection. So it poofs, alotta things go poof with it.

    Do you see any protection on the wiring diagram,,,,,

    Surmizing not really, just going through the wiring diagram in the service manual, There is no Coolmate 1.3 in the service manuals yet, just a parts break down for it in the 280 manual

    Now this is all hear say, Its probably a marvelous machine. Haven't seen any yet.
    Maybe they will DeClassify all this Secret info... and we will get to see the light..

    Do not understand why it is so tough to get Facts & Specifications….

    Acting like these are a state secret or that the customer is not smart enough to understand will adversely affect our interest in purchasing said blue box…

    Might just be motivated to keep our money in pocket and drag our knuckles out of the tent…
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    To clarify, there is an option in the software of the machine that you can disable the Cooler Power Supply.


    As far as not having issues plugging a grinder into a Dynasty 350 - that product had much more space available underneath the shell. Because a majority of customers requested that we design the receptacle on the Dynasty and Maxstar 280 to be just for the cooler, we didn't want to engineer a Cooler Power Supply which would add weight and size to the machine.
    Last edited by Miller Welders; 12-16-2013 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller Welders View Post
    To clarify, there is an option in the software of the machine that you can disable the Cooler Power Supply.


    As far as not having issues plugging a grinder into a Dynasty 350 - that product had much more space available underneath the shell. Because a majority of customers requested that we design the receptacle on the Dynasty and Maxstar 280 to be just for the cooler, we did want to engineer a Cooler Power Supply which would add weight and size to the machine.
    Back to square one......

    Questions STILL not answered....
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