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    Default Hard surface wire?

    I am slowly switching our shop from stick to mig process. Currently we use Wearshield ABR. I am looking for a wire that's available in .045" gas or gasless.....we just want quality. Decent out of position is neccesary. For the most part we will be doing equipment in an asphalt plant ranging rom conveyors for stone to bucket loader buckets thatscoop off a pavement surface to load the asphaly mixing bins with stone and sand. Looking for something that lasts long, has good buildup and wear resistance as well ease of use out of position. I am perfectly capable of setting most wires up but the issue is who we have using the stuff. Anyways, thanks in advance. Dave

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    For Equipment repair I use dual shield Lincoln ( Outer shield 71 Elite ) with 75/25 shelding gas and for areas that need to be abrasion resistant I use AR 400 plate.

    You might want to look through the lincoln welding consumable catolog to find something that suits you better.

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    Default Hard surface wire?

    Postalloy PS-98WC is one wire I use.
    They are very helpful in hard surface wire questions.
    POSTLE Industries, Inc.
    Cleveland Ohio
    WWW.postle.com
    Jim Henry - Hardfacing Specialist
    540-421-3410 cell
    He is my rep. In Pa. Been helpful to me.
    Greg

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    Thanks. I am already set up with Outershield 71 Elite for the structural end. I am looking for the hard surface wire. I've used hard alloy before but not sure which is best.
    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyWelder View Post
    I am slowly switching our shop from stick to mig process. Currently we use Wearshield ABR. I am looking for a wire that's available in .045" gas or gasless.....we just want quality. Decent out of position is neccesary. For the most part we will be doing equipment in an asphalt plant ranging rom conveyors for stone to bucket loader buckets thatscoop off a pavement surface to load the asphaly mixing bins with stone and sand. Looking for something that lasts long, has good buildup and wear resistance as well ease of use out of position. I am perfectly capable of setting most wires up but the issue is who we have using the stuff. Anyways, thanks in advance. Dave

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    Best thing to do in your case is to call the various hard-face manufacturers direct. Stoody, Rankin, Lincoln Electric, and Postle all have excellent technical advisors, and can tell you which products they supply will work best in your specific application, considering both hardness and toughness (resistance to chipping). Probably other manufacturers do also, I can't think of them right now.

    Also consider weld-on wear plates, I think from Kennametal, others may supply them also. The ones I used were 2"x3"x 3/16" or so, with a hole in the middle. Good for covering large areas, simply hold them in place, plug weld the hole, and then weld around the edges. I used them often when hardfacing grinding equipment. This was 20 years ago, I'm sure somebody somewhere still supplies something similar.
    Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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    The Kenco plate are durable and fast to install.
    For wire, we use Lincore33, 50, and 60-0. 1/16 and 532. I see they are available in .045

    They are not all position, but will work for horizontal beads on vertical surfaces.
    Jeff

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    I ewnded up going with Lincore 50(gasless and Lincore 55G(gas).
    Quote Originally Posted by J hall View Post
    The Kenco plate are durable and fast to install.
    For wire, we use Lincore33, 50, and 60-0. 1/16 and 532. I see they are available in .045

    They are not all position, but will work for horizontal beads on vertical surfaces.

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    In the western U.S. it's very (very) hard to find hardface consumables in anything other than stick (in quantities) because everyone went years ago to weld on hard material.
    Small amounts are still done with stick, but mines, etc are all using weld on material be they Kenco plates, or more likely carbide overlay kits or the manganese wear plates.
    Kenco plates are cheap and fast to install (and in stock about everywhere), carbide/manganese are more expensive but last a lot longer.
    Lincoln makes some good hard wires but they aren't always available, some are made to order in pallet quantity only with considerable lead time.
    Just my opinion but the off the shelf carbide overlay material is the biggest bang for the buck, they armour up a D-9 in very little time and last really nice.
    Again my opinion but anybody running a hard wire (unless it's on a roll crusher) instead of weld on material (in large quantity), is wasting many dollars even on a little backhoe bucket.
    The Kenco distributer in my state will ship 5, or 5,000 right to my door.

    J
    Some days you eat the bear. And some days the bear eats you.

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