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Thread: Lincoln SAE 300

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    Default Lincoln SAE 300

    I had this SAE300 given to me because the engine is froze.
    So what I would like to know is:
    Does this machine weld like the SA-200s?
    Is there a interest in these machines like the SA-200s?
    The rest of the machine is in good condition, straight, no rust, fairly clean.
    Is it worth rebuilding the engine?
    Should I just get 10 cents a pound scrap?
    It has a 6 cyl. Continental engine.
    It's 7' long, I could put a complete SA-200 inside the frame work.
    I pulled the intake/exhaust manifold off and mud ran out of the exhaust ports and the intake ports had rust also but they where clean.
    I'll see what you guys say before I pull the head.
    Good Luck,
    Bob
    Last edited by Bob Miller; 10-04-2013 at 02:34 PM. Reason: spelling and wording
    Millermatic 252 w/30A
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    Ellis 3000 Band Saw
    Trailblazer 302 Air Pak w/ Wireless Remote
    8-RC
    Dynasty 200 DX
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    SA-200 Red Face '66
    SA-200 Green Lite '81
    '70 Black Face Round Barrel

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    Default Lincoln SAE 300

    Don't get rid of it. I would suggest getting another 6 cylinder engine and swapping them out. Probably easier in the long run. What happened to the engine in it anyway!

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    Default Lincoln SAE 300

    Heck , I would buy it for .10 cents a pound!

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    I will buy it for the scrap price

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    Default Rain water

    It had a rain cap on the spark arrester, but the spark arrester was on upside down.
    So the rain collected in the lip of the spark arrester and rusted out the arrester a filled the engine with water.
    Before I pulled the manifold, I put a vacuum on the exhaust pipe stub and blew air pressure in the spark plug holes, when I did #5 cyl. it blew all (most) the rust flakes out of the manifold. Before that it was packed tight with rust chunks.
    If I use the serial number chart from Stumpf's website, I come up with a 1976 model.
    It has a red face with a round barrel, but I don't know if that means anything like it does with the SA-200s.
    Good Luck,
    Bob
    Millermatic 252 w/30A
    Big Blue Air Pak
    Ellis 3000 Band Saw
    Trailblazer 302 Air Pak w/ Wireless Remote
    8-RC
    Dynasty 200 DX
    XMT 350 MPa w/S-74 MPa Plus
    Millermatic 211
    Passport Plus
    Spectrum 625 X-TREME
    Lincoln SA-200 Blue Tint Red Face '63
    2-Lincoln SA-200 Red Face '68
    SA-200 Black Face '59
    SA-200 Green Lite '84
    SA-200 Green Lite '80
    SA-200 Red Face '69
    SA-200 Red Face '66
    SA-200 Green Lite '81
    '70 Black Face Round Barrel

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    Diesel and rag trick should solve it.

    Remove the head, soak the rags in diesel, put em on top the pistons and in the cylinders. Light em up. The cyclinders will get hot, the rings will lubricate, and the engine will turn over. Trick hasn't let me down yet.

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    Default cheap rebuild

    Older contientals are very cheap to rebuild. I would pull the head and inspect the cylinders if there is heavy rust, yank the engine. I do something similiar to cruisers idea but a little different. I fill each cylinder with motor oil and take a propane torch to the oil, oil heats up and works into the rings, free the engine over pull the pistons hone and re ring. Continentals can take a large amount of ring gap. After that kind of age you should be inspecting the bearings anyhow. Should be able to do a rebuild on that engine for 500-700.
    Kevin
    XMT 304
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    And then what? Got a use for it?

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    Default Toy

    I have no real use for it, just a toy. I like to make them run again.
    I got it free, so I can afford to put some money in it to make it run.
    Then if they run good, new hoses, belt, plugs, wires, points, condenser, cap and rotor.
    Then maybe some paint.
    Good Luck,
    Bob
    Millermatic 252 w/30A
    Big Blue Air Pak
    Ellis 3000 Band Saw
    Trailblazer 302 Air Pak w/ Wireless Remote
    8-RC
    Dynasty 200 DX
    XMT 350 MPa w/S-74 MPa Plus
    Millermatic 211
    Passport Plus
    Spectrum 625 X-TREME
    Lincoln SA-200 Blue Tint Red Face '63
    2-Lincoln SA-200 Red Face '68
    SA-200 Black Face '59
    SA-200 Green Lite '84
    SA-200 Green Lite '80
    SA-200 Red Face '69
    SA-200 Red Face '66
    SA-200 Green Lite '81
    '70 Black Face Round Barrel

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    Default No Go

    I set it on fire, it burned for over an hour.
    The I sprayed PB blaster penetrating oil until the pistons were covered 1/4'' deep.
    I then let it sit for about 2 weeks.
    Nothing, I put a long handle wrench on it with my foot (275 lbs) and I just tighten the bolt for the pulley.

    Any other ideas?

    Good Luck,
    Bob
    Millermatic 252 w/30A
    Big Blue Air Pak
    Ellis 3000 Band Saw
    Trailblazer 302 Air Pak w/ Wireless Remote
    8-RC
    Dynasty 200 DX
    XMT 350 MPa w/S-74 MPa Plus
    Millermatic 211
    Passport Plus
    Spectrum 625 X-TREME
    Lincoln SA-200 Blue Tint Red Face '63
    2-Lincoln SA-200 Red Face '68
    SA-200 Black Face '59
    SA-200 Green Lite '84
    SA-200 Green Lite '80
    SA-200 Red Face '69
    SA-200 Red Face '66
    SA-200 Green Lite '81
    '70 Black Face Round Barrel

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