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    Default Spoeedglas = bad investment...bummer

    About 6 years ago I bought a Speedglas 9000F hood. It is a really nice hood. It has a number 12 lens and as I am only running mig now, I cannot see a darned thing but the puddle. I just called 3M to get a new 10 lens and was told that it is 3 generations old and it would cost me $400 for a new lens, so I may as well just buy a new helmet. Now, to me, that is just tremendous customer service.

    I'm in business and I understand product cycles, but you have to buy from people who support their products after the sale. In my opinion, speedglas has done anything but. Parts are a profit center but they should not be priced so that you push your customers away. At least that is the way I see it

    I guess I'll run down and pick up that new Miller helmet I was looking at yesterday.

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    I use a 9100xx and i have never had a problem with it. But replacement outer lenses are pretty hard to find for it .

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    I was thinking about buying a Speedglas 9100xx but now I'm glad that I didn't yet. Service after the sale is extremely important; especially with the economy tanking. I'm glad I ran across this post...Thanks!

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    I bought a shield that is called a ( Arc One ) and have had it for a little over a year now and have been very pleased with it, I used to have a speed glass and gave it to my foreman.

    I like the fact that I never have to turn it on and I like how the head gear tightens like a huntsman.

    Keep in mind I have only had it for about 15 months, If mine broke tomorrow I would go get another one.

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    Thanks for the info. I'm going to look into that...

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    I just looked in the Speedglas manual and I see that the 9000F model has 10, 11, and 12. I thought that meant that the 9000F was adjustable for those three settings.
    Last edited by Synchroman; 10-03-2013 at 07:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synchroman View Post
    I just looked in the Speedglas manual and I see that the 9000F model has 10, 11, and 12. I thought that meant that the 9000F was adjustable for those three settings.
    From what I can gather, the F is for fixed shade. Was available in 10, 11 or 12. 9000V was variable shade 9 to 13. But I'm just guessing.
    Tim

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    Default Spoeedglas = bad investment...bummer

    H80N;

    Wow!

    How does this fall on the OP that Speedglass is trying to rape him for a replacement shade?

    I understand he bought what he needed at the time but $400 for a new lense is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericher69 View Post
    H80N;

    Wow!

    How does this fall on the OP that Speedglass is trying to rape him for a replacement shade?

    I understand he bought what he needed at the time but $400 for a new lense is ridiculous.
    He has choice and free will.... he is not forced to buy the Speedglass..

    Even the fixed shade 12 that he bought 6 years ago... if he got another 6 years out of the new replacement $400 lens... that would work out to be about 5.45 Cents a day... hardly exorbitant...

    BUT ....There are many more choices available now..

    there are now excellent, inexpensive autoshades for a fraction of the cost of the 6 year old technology of a replacement lens for that Speedglass....
    I think PORTABLE WELDER may have suggested one...(arc one)

    Heck.... even some of the Very Cheap chinee helmets are better than the 6 year old tech he is contemplating.. they have come a very long way...

    The choice is up to him...
    Last edited by H80N; 10-04-2013 at 06:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericher69 View Post
    H80N;

    Wow!

    How does this fall on the OP that Speedglass is trying to rape him for a replacement shade?

    I understand he bought what he needed at the time but $400 for a new lense is ridiculous.
    That's the blame game. People who believe that they are successful in a certain field often do that, especially on the internet.

    As to replacements, there are some great units on the market now. My son bought one whose name escapes me now for $90. It weighs less than my Speedglas and has a 4" X 4" window with full adjustments including sensitivity. That will be my next welding purchase.
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