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    Default Miller absorbtion of the Smith Equipment line

    After hearing that Miller has absorbed the Smith line under their brand, a couple questions have come to my mind as a user and promoter of Smith products.

    1) Will any current smith products be dropped?
    2) Will any be added ( i.e. the even size welding tips )
    3) Will Smith engineering be dissolved or moved to China?
    4) How will conflicts of technology be handled? An example of this I am familiar with is Tig technology vs. O/A technology for aircraft construction. Will O/A get an unbiased and fair representation at trade shows with Miller knowing full well that there are much lower profits to be made on O/A vs a new Tig outfit?

    If it seems that I have some fears here, you would be correct. Smith makes by far the best aircraft welding torch, and I am fearful that Miller will kill it off in an effort to increase sales of entry level Tig machines. On the other hand there is an excellent chance here for miller to promote both technologys, honestly and capture a large percentage of the GA/homebuilt aviation market. Looking forward to your reply.
    -Aaron
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    How did the plasma effect the cutting torch? Its still around, if someone wants or needs it they will make it. May turn out well. The welding industry has had some good mergers.

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    IK am not sure why I have any fear of welding alum with a torch, I should try it, would be good for field repair of tubing. My server is slow or I would ask for video links. I can use my tig wire for filler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerometalworker View Post
    After hearing that Miller has absorbed the Smith line under their brand, a couple questions have come to my mind as a user and promoter of Smith products.
    I think its just another rumor. Smith and Miller are sister companies under the ITW banner. Miller uses the Smith products in its line...Bob
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    Oh Goody...

    this discussion could easily dovetail with an old thread over on the Motorsports forum....

    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...605#post310605

    oxy-fuel.... vs or plus electric inert gas technique... how they complement or contrast each other...
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    Here's the press release:

    http://www.millerwelds.com/about/new...tting-offering

    Could paint them blue and call them Smurf torches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMCPOP View Post
    Here's the press release:

    http://www.millerwelds.com/about/new...tting-offering

    Could paint them blue and call them Smurf torches.
    Thanks...Bob
    Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
    Metal Master Fab Salem, Oh 44460
    Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
    1999 MM185 w/185 Spoolgun,1986 Thunderbolt AC/DC
    Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
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    Hmm, I guess that is why my MM 252 came bundled with a Smith double dial flowmeter. It will make a nice backup. I have a vintage Smith ball flowmeter that was 15 years old when I got it fifteen years ago and it's still going strong. Smith is a good brand. I hope that it doesn't disappear.
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    My guess is that contact with Smith will be funnelled through Miller as they have been sibling companies for quite some time.
    http://www.smithequipment.com/history.html

    Probably like every other company they are trying to reduce overhead and duplicate job functions,Weldcraft and Tregaskiss have been that way for a while too.
    Last edited by big mike; 08-12-2013 at 09:34 AM.

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    I guess my concern was more in the area of marketing and product development in the less than main stream models. Hoping to get a response here from Miller.
    "Better Metalworking Through Research"

    Miller Dynasty 300DX
    Miller Dynasty 200DX
    Miller Spectrum 375 extreme
    Miller Millermatic Passport

    Miller Spot Welder
    Motor-Guard stud welder

    Smith, Meco, Oxweld , Cronatron, Harris, Victor, National, Prest-o-weld, Prest-o-lite, Marquette, Century Aircraft, Craftsman, Goss, Uniweld, Purox, Linde, Eutectic, and Dillon welding torches from 1909 to Present. (58 total)

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