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    Quote Originally Posted by makowicki View Post
    Looking at pictures and some of the specs almost seems to be a knock off with blue paint. I will have to stop LWS and see what they know.
    Knock off of what???...

    Sure would not think so....
    Last edited by H80N; 07-24-2013 at 06:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    Knock off of what???...

    Sure would not think so....
    Knock off of their own equipment

    They already have the technology from their Dynasty and Diversion series stuff.


    Just put it in the 212 or 252 case and ta da !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    Knock off of their own equipment

    They already have the technology from their Dynasty and Diversion series stuff.


    Just put it in the 212 or 252 case and ta da !
    And all this time I was under the misaprehension that a "Knockoff"

    was a copy of somebody elses work...

    Who-Da_Thunkit...
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    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

    TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus Mills, Lathes & a Rat Tail File..

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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    Sounds interesting... when are we going to get details??

    Upgradeable and Expandable
    Front panel memory card data port provides the ability to easily upgrade software and expand product features


    And the Owners/operators Manuals.. released soon????
    So they took the Dynasty280, detuned it, called it a Syncro, and shoved it into a Millermatic cabinet. I like it.

    http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/spec_sheets/AD4-6.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    Sounds like a good way to "muddy the waters" regarding the distinction between transformer-based versus inverter-based machines.
    It also sounds like a good way to pˇss away the good name of the Syncrowave BRAND.

    Personally, as a hobbyist/weekend warrior, I wouldn't own an inverter.

    That's why I chose a Syncrowave 250.

    I suspect there are a lot of other welder purchasers in the same boat.

    Up until now, if someone mentioned a "Syncrowave," everyone knew they referred to a transformer-based machine. Not anymore.

    Now, for the first time, when we talk about Syncrowaves, we'll have to talk about whether they're transformer machines (all except the 210) or inverter machines (the 210).

    How's THAT for branding, folks? I bet it took an MBA to come up with that!

    What's next? The Miller "Pinto" ... or maybe the Miller "Edsel"? Or how 'bout "The New Miller" ... like "The New Coke"?
    Last edited by Helios; 07-25-2013 at 05:01 AM.

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    The duty cycle seems low, though that may be conservative. On stick, it's 150A @ 20%. My TA 161STL is rated 160A @ 30%.

    And a max OCV of 47 Volts?

    The Sync 210 manual has been added to the manual section.

    http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o261726a_mil.pdf
    Last edited by USMCPOP; 07-25-2013 at 08:00 AM.
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    Does it come with a internal water cooler? Or will it have to be a add on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USMCPOP View Post
    The Sync 210 manual has been added to the manual section.

    http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o261726a_mil.pdf
    Thanks Pop...

    That Operators Manual clears up a lot....

    Maybe they will develop a small water cooler to tuck into the side compartment....

    a water cooled torch would broaden its market and make it a neat little all in one lite industrial TIG...

    A lot of people don't need the features and complexity of a Dynasty 200DX but do need a bit more than a Diversion 180..

    this should fit right in...

    Could also see it equipped with a water cooled Micro TIG torch like a WP-125

    http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...cPath=13_18_39

    or WP-24W

    http://www.weldcraft.com/products/wp-series/wp-24w/

    would fit right in with jewlers, injection mold repair and university labs... and a bunch more places...

    It's simple setup could open up new applications for less sophisticated operators...
    Last edited by H80N; 07-25-2013 at 12:36 PM.
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    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know......

    “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

    My Blue Stuff:
    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

    TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus Mills, Lathes & a Rat Tail File..

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    Thumbs up

    Do wonder what doors might be opening up in the low amperage TIG automation arena with "Memory Card" and firmware upgradability... a USB pipe is a tiny step more.... that is if it does not Already have a built in "Diagnostic Port"....

    There are lot's of places where a small affordable programmable supply could be used...

    Small scale CNC is now quite common.. in areas like Plasma Tables and milling machines...

    no reason that welding could not be incorporated into the mix...
    Last edited by H80N; 07-25-2013 at 12:34 PM.
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    *******************************************
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know......

    “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

    My Blue Stuff:
    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

    TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus Mills, Lathes & a Rat Tail File..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    It also sounds like a good way to pˇss away the good name of the Syncrowave BRAND.

    Personally, as a hobbyist/weekend warrior, I wouldn't own an inverter.

    That's why I chose a Syncrowave 250.

    I suspect there are a lot of other welder purchasers in the same boat.

    Up until now, if someone mentioned a "Syncrowave," everyone knew they referred to a transformer-based machine. Not anymore.

    Now, for the first time, when we talk about Syncrowaves, we'll have to talk about whether they're transformer machines (all except the 210) or inverter machines (the 210).

    How's THAT for branding, folks? I bet it took an MBA to come up with that!

    What's next? The Miller "Pinto" ... or maybe the Miller "Edsel"? Or how 'bout "The New Miller" ... like "The New Coke"?
    Interesting marketing trivia with the "New Coke"- when they launched it it was a disaster as everyone pretty much knows but when they switched back and came out with Coke Classic they took back more market share than they had with the original Coke. Accidental genius marketing
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