I have a Bosch shear in either 6 or 8 gage (not looking at it right now and memory isn't that great). Good tool, and it has its purpose, but for a nicely finished edge with less prep time I'd give the edge to my old Hypertherm 900. Actually for 10 ga. I have a couple of cheap Harbor Freight Skil type metal cutting saws that beat both for a nice precision edge...but they are an ungodly mess to operate throwing metal chips hither and yon! If cutting other than an absolutely straight line the Bosch can be more than a handful to keep under control.
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Thread: Bought one of these today
06-02-2013, 09:40 AM #11Senior Member
Miller 251...sold the spoolgun to DiverBill.
- Join Date
- Sep 2005
- WY...armpit of U.S.A.
Miller DialArc 250
Lincoln PrecisionTig 275
Hypertherm 900 plasma cutter
Bridgeport "J" head mill...tooled up
Jet 14 X 40 lathe...ditto
South Bend 9" lathe...yeah, got the change gears too
Logan 7" shaper
Ellis 3000 band saw
Hossfeld bender w/shopbuilt hyd.
Victor Journeyman torch and gauges
3 Gerstner boxes of mostly Starrett tools
Lots of dust bunnies
Too small of a shop at 40 X 59.
06-02-2013, 01:33 PM #12
The quality of cut BS gets old too, O/A has been producing beautiful cuts for many many decades,,, and it can't get more simple than wheel the outfit to where the work is and turn on the tanks.
No doubt their are some jobs that Plasma is the best choice, but in my situation, it's just an expensive toy I don't need and would never buy another one... when the cost of consumables come down and are made water proof I might become interested in Plasma machines... until then I'll avoid using it as much as I can and continue to use O/A, the Ellis band saw, Evolution saw, Milwaukee chop saw and now the Makita to do my cutting.
Here's my expensive air system, since 2003 it's been serving me well.. 10 drops of oil in the air tools before I use them and I'm off to the races....
06-02-2013, 02:02 PM #13
Sorry for the hijack.MM250
Lincoln ac/dc 225
MM200 black face
Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
Arco roto-phase model M
Vectrax 7x12 band saw
Miller spectrum 875
30a spoolgun w/wc-24
06-02-2013, 02:08 PM #14
Your air system is shameful, you didn't put $3000 into it to build projects that you don't even need in the first place.
Distortion? you boys need to go watch an electrician welder burn targets and boxes out...How about distortion on CNC plasma tables they always talk about, plasma can distort thin metal also.
06-02-2013, 04:54 PM #15Senior Member
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I'm surprised to hear you would rather use o/a rather than your plasma. I have loved my plasma since I got it. The consumables are cheap for my machine and they last a long time if I don't get backs plashing. What plasma machine do you have? I do hear ya on oxy being a little more portable, but acetylene is not cheap and air is free. My plasma is dual voltage, and can cut 1/4" on 110v, while running off my small job site portable compressor.
Really interested to see a cut from your new shears too. I have always been happy with makita products, I'm sure you will love this!
06-02-2013, 05:24 PM #16Senior Member
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- Dec 2011
Thanks for the replies to both of you. So it is the moisture in the air supply that eats the consumables. I've heard lots about air driers for plasma but I suppose everyone figured I already knew why. I guess that's why they sometimes use nitrogen instead of air. Nitrogen about the same cost as oxygen? Anyway nitrogen doesn't solve my issue either. I'm trying to avoid tank rental fees. We can't own cylinders here except for the really tiny ones that I find too small and too expensive to be useful for what I do. I was hoping for something light and portable that I could use at home that I don't have to keep paying on whether I use it or not. Given other discussions about inverters aging and storage maybe that's not a great idea either although I don't know that I buy into that either. Between work, renovations and the demands of family life I don't get as much leisure time as I'd like. Food for thought.Thanks.
06-02-2013, 05:43 PM #17
It's like why do I need to have plasma? Not one of my projects or repairs have been done with Plasma. I honestly get along fine without it... just like I did before plasma became popular and a common tool in the shop.
I'll put some 10 ga cut pictures up after I get the tool and go over the adjustments.
The shear is just another arrow in the tool quiver. I have been wanting one for long time and a 10 ga project is at hand. From information I have gleaned over the internet shears are better for what I want to do.
My Ellis 1600 is by far the shops work horse.
06-02-2013, 06:12 PM #18turbo38t Guest
Time is money.....I GUARANTEE you that I can cut a sheet of 10 gauge with my Hypertherm 1000 with a drag tip on it all the way across in less than 10 seconds.....name me one person that can do that with OA? OA can cut decently fast on a track torch setup(which takes for ever to set up) and decently fast with a guide(but only until you skip a beat in your heart rate and need to restart the cut). Hardly any prep after plasma either. I can and do use a 00 tip on my torch hear and there and I consider myself pretty ****ed good with a torch but for sheetmetal you can not beat plasma......and at home I have an airline filter and dryer but at work it's about the dirtiest air you can get and no problems.....what time is involved in plasma setup? Hook up the ground and airline and go at it? Probably takes the same amount of time to get shear out of cabinet and run extension cord. Dave
06-02-2013, 06:53 PM #19
I get sick and tired of hearing how fast someone can cut with a plasma, I don't know of anyone who sees how many cuts he can make per second plasma vs O/A... I ain't in no hurry and clean up is no problem.
Time is money... give me a break, I'm not a fab shop so the speed of lightening and few taps to knock off slag are non issues for me. Go buy another plasma, with practice you can cut with both hands and really impress those who care how fast your are.
06-02-2013, 08:33 PM #20
Manufactures make the tools so we can buy them. Each tool has its place and each person has his or her tool of choice. Some of us can afford them all and others cannot afford shoelaces. It's what you have and how you make it work.
A old guy told me that anybody could do it with the right tool.