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    I'm certainly no heavy equipment repair expert but I was told you never weld across the face of a beam or a vehicle's frame, only along it's outside edge so you don't weakin the frame or beam.... that's why they use rivets shown in the picture. Am I right, wrong or is it sometimes you got to do what you got to do.
    I know they make HD rivet guns you can buy to install the rivets pictured, a guy on welding web used them when he did a trailer rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milkerman:305028
    So the question i have is how long was this mount on the drill rig couple days,weeks or years. I agree with mmw the pictures don't really show anything. The other thing how do you know if the person did this job just got a welder seems like a broad statement to make. Were you brought into fix this problem or something else and found this at the same time. I hope you used a good dual shield or self shielded wire to repair it.
    New truck. Old rig. Hired a guy that is about 60 thinking he knew what he was doing but come to find out that he retired from a desk job and started welding very recently to mount rig to truck couple weeks ago. Having probs uploading pics so gotta do it from home when I get a chance. Its really not a broad statement when you see it all the time. Anyone can get a business license and start welding is the problem. And no.... 7018.

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    Torch cuts left jagged
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    My favorite... flat
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    No offence but I was expecting alot worse, Ya the weld is a vert. down and its lacking filler metal.

    I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just saying I've seen alot worse.

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    perfect answer weldonwelding.i can tell you know your stuff and work hard and am proud of what you do.
    i -100% agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portable Welder:305072
    No offence but I was expecting alot worse, Ya the weld is a vert. down and its lacking filler metal.

    I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just saying I've seen alot worse.
    This is terrible and if it was done on my time or any of the shops that I have worked for... the person who did it would be fired on the spot. People work at the rear of this truck right by the boom that this crap was intended to hold up. Lots of pressure on these welds even with the boom down so let alone when the boom is up on a windy day. Just a matter of time and these would have broke... the pics don't do a whole lot of justice because I'm just having probs uploading em. But just the torch cuts and down hill load bearing should be enough. I have cut them off and in the process of making all new with my iron worker. I will post pics when finished

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    Weldonwelding, Based on this imformation that makes a big difference ( Not that you didd'nt mention it before, I just forgot )

    In the picture it just looks like a flat bed mounted on a frame so the weld would have probably held.

    First off, The bed should not be welded to the frame, It should be mounted with bolts so I hope your not welding it to the frame.

    It should have shackles where you have a bolt on each side of the rail with a top and bottom plate.

    At a minimum there should be 4 different areas where it bolts down, I suspect you will have 6 or 8 areas to remedy this problem.

    Make sure you let the owner know that ther'es a possability that the frame might crack where the other guy welded it, Even if you cut his crap off the frame has suffered damage from the heat.

    If you have to ever weld to a frame you can weld parrallel to the frame but never weld across the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portable Welder:305097
    Weldonwelding, Based on this imformation that makes a big difference ( Not that you didd'nt mention it before, I just forgot )

    In the picture it just looks like a flat bed mounted on a frame so the weld would have probably held.

    First off, The bed should not be welded to the frame, It should be mounted with bolts so I hope your not welding it to the frame.

    It should have shackles where you have a bolt on each side of the rail with a top and bottom plate.

    At a minimum there should be 4 different areas where it bolts down, I suspect you will have 6 or 8 areas to remedy this problem.

    Make sure you let the owner know that ther'es a possability that the frame might crack where the other guy welded it, Even if you cut his crap off the frame has suffered damage from the heat.

    If you have to ever weld to a frame you can weld parrallel to the frame but never weld across the frame.
    Thanks.. but your talking to probably the only person You have ever talked to that is state certified to weld on the states fleet of trucks about welding to truck frames. You do not weld to the flange of the frame... attached is a pic of a sticker that states just that on the truck that I'm working on. But don't worry, your not the first person that I've heard not know that
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