I have a 3 year old miller 252 and I just got a 25' push pull gun for it. I hooked it up, and when the trigger is activated, it feeds about 2" of wire, and then quits. The display shows this: hlp 005. I can't find my welder owners manual, can anyone tell me what this code is indicating?
Also, any tips or suggestions on general use of pushpull for someone who has never used one would be appreciated. Thanks
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03-06-2013, 09:40 PM #1
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03-07-2013, 08:45 AM #2
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Download Operator manual here.
http://www.millerwelds.com/service/ownersmanuals.php
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03-07-2013, 09:09 AM #3
Nothing welded, Nothing gained
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03-07-2013, 06:44 PM #4
The push motor really doesn't do much after the wire is loaded. I loosen it off to near no pressure, Then it feeds fine,
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03-08-2013, 09:23 AM #5
In this type of situation the first thing I always suggest is to stretch the gun out straight, run a little wire out so you can grab it and then release the drive rolls in the unit and in the gun. After releasing the drive rolls try to pull the wire through the gun by hand, you should be able to pull it fairly easy, if you struggle to pull it the unit is going to struggle as well and you will want to check the spool brake tension and consider replacing the liner as well.
Kevin Schuh
Service Technician
Miller Electric Mfg. Co.
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03-07-2013, 08:46 AM #6
Yes, the primary drive motor in the cabinet is overdriving, hence the help5 code. We get that on our mm350P if we overtighten the clamp springs. Loosen them and see if the 2 motors sync up. I guess the idea is to let the pull motor do most of the work, with the push motor as an assist.
There is a SUP value labeled on the torch. Does your machine need to have that value inputed in the controls?
Good Luck.Nothing welded, Nothing gained
Miller Dynasty700DX
3 ea. Miller Dynasty350DX
Miller Dynasty200DX
ThermalArc 400 GTSW
MillerMatic350P
MillerMatic200 with spoolgun
MKCobraMig260
Lincoln SP-170T
Linde UCC305 (sold 2011)
Hypertherm 1250
Hypertherm 800
PlasmaCam CNC cutter
Fadal Toolroom CNC Mill
SiberHegner CNC Mill
2 ea. Bridgeport
LeBlond 15" Lathe
Haberle 18" Cold Saw
Doringer 14" Cold Saw
6 foot x 12 foot Mojave granite


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