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  1. #1
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    Question More advanced documentation for Dynasty welders?

    I recently upgraded from a Diversion 165 to a Dynasty 200 DX - primarily for its pulse capability. Of course I also got a WHOLE LOT of other tweak and adjustment capabilities. The owner's manual tells me HOW to adjust various parameters but does not tell me much about the interrelation between the setting. For example...

    If I adjust the shielding gas pre-flow in the "Advanced Functions" menu it seems like it effects the operation when I am operating the machine in "manual" mode with a foot pedal rather than a programmed welding scenario operated with an on/off push button.

    On the other hand, if I change the tungsten size selection does that change the startup performance if I am using a foot pedal for amperage control?

    Perhaps someone from Miller can chime in if there is some "engineering" documentation available for this welder.

    TIA,

    Ken

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    Maybe you should do a reset to default settings and start over. I had to do it a couple of times when I messed it up beyond my ability to comprehend the results.

    And if you think the 200 is complicated, try a 350.
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    Thanks shovelon,

    I am aware of how to reset the machine. And I have done it a couple of times. What I am after is to sort out which parameters are adjustable when using the machine with a remote amperage control vs. which parameters only function if I use a start/stop welding program. At least that is my task at the moment.

    I am aware that the 350 has some additional "tweaks" available. I know from personal experience that the independently settable EP and EN currents on AC override the "max" amperage set on the panel. I was covering for an instructor at a local community college who was in the hospital. We had one 350 in the lab. A student was evaporating 1/8" tungstens trying to weld aluminum. He had the max amps set to 120 and the balance set to 30% EP. A 1/16" tungsten could carry that current. I downloaded the manual that evening and did a reboot the next day. The machine behaved fine. The following day, same settings, tap the foot pedal and poof - the tungsten was gone. Seems that someone in the evening class was dorking around with the settings and had the EP current set to 350 amps!

    Ken

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    Have you read the "sticky" about setting up a Dynasty at the top of this page?
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    Thanks Frank865!

    I generally start by selecting Quick Links and then Today's Posts. I had not looked at the top of the forum for years. I will spend some time going through the 19 pages of posts in the sticky and see what pearls I can find.

    Ken

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    I have scanned through about a third of the sticky. I have seen a couple of good tips but hardly a substitute for good documentation. In the starting post ASKANDY from Miller states
    There also have been a lot of requests for a Dynasty book. Even though this is a GREAT idea and has been looked at, our resources at this time are too thin to take on this exhausting task.
    While I can sympathize with him to some extent, from the customer's point of view I guess I would translate this to "We are going to sell you a $4,000 - $14,000+ welder with a zillion features but don't ask us to give you more than the most rudimentary documentation." Had I come across the sticky thread first it would have given me pause before purchasing the Dynasty. End of rant.

    To get back on a positive note... Does anyone know of any good generic textbooks about inverter TIG welders? I looked at the AWS web site but their bookstore search seemed only to search the standards. If I can learn WHAT parameters I want for a particular situation, I can figure out HOW to establish those parameters in the Dynasty.

    TIA,

    Ken

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    I just use the quick reference guide as... well a guide and experiment from there.
    http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/DynastyQuickRef.pdf

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    Thanks c wagner,

    I do have the laminated quick reference card which came with the machine. In fact I just finished marking up the pictures (of a Dynasty 350) to block out the panel lights which I do not have on the 200. The manual also has some 350 carry over which I am crossing out as I come across it.

    Since Miller will not write the answers in the documentation, I am submitting my questions a couple at a time through their support web page. When (if) I collect a volume of answers I will write them up and add them to the sticky thread.

    And as to the bizarre thing I learned today... If you change the waveform on AC
    To save changes and exit, press torch trigger or turn power off.
    I am not sure if it will save the changes if you just go on to set another parameter. I will have to test that. Strange!

    Ken

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    Thanks Broccoli1,

    I have seen some of those videos but not all of them. I will watch or rewatch all of them.

    Ken

    p.s. Actually I have seen the first one which in fact contains all of the other ones. It is included on a DVD with the machine. I did not recognize the individual video names at first glance. Decent BASIC info but it does not go into the more advanced programming features.
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