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  1. #11
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    Based on my experience with a small Brit coupe racer I'd advise building a Halo style cage. The top hoop can be prefabbed and lifted into place while most of the vertical bars can be welded from below. I only learnt that from looking back at my cage and how it could be improved.....
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    small surface grinder
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    Tons of grinders and hand tools
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  2. #12
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    Speaking of Camaro cages, friend of mine's brother in law runs a Camaro at the Texas Mile. He recently upgraded his cage and he's glad he did.
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    That is what happens when you flip at 240.
    Last edited by dallas_; 04-03-2013 at 07:33 AM.

  3. #13
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    What caused the flip?
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  4. #14
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    This car finally showed up last night complete with a whole laundry list of things to do besides the cage. I really don't need any more work at this point but it's here so I'll post some pics when I start.
    MM250
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    22a feeder
    Lincoln ac/dc 225
    Victor O/A
    MM200 black face
    Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
    Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
    Arco roto-phase model M
    Vectrax 7x12 band saw
    Miller spectrum 875
    30a spoolgun w/wc-24
    Syncrowave 250
    RCCS-14

  5. #15
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    Started yesterday. Got the main hoop & rear down bars fitted. Formed & welded the floor plates for them both. Going to tack the bars, remove & weld them, reinstall. Then I will fit the halo bar after bending correctly since one bend is wrong & front down tubes.
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    MM250
    Trailblazer 250g
    22a feeder
    Lincoln ac/dc 225
    Victor O/A
    MM200 black face
    Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
    Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
    Arco roto-phase model M
    Vectrax 7x12 band saw
    Miller spectrum 875
    30a spoolgun w/wc-24
    Syncrowave 250
    RCCS-14

  6. #16
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    I can't believe this thing has been in my shop this long. Been working on it in between other stuff & almost finished up the cage today. Waiting for the owner to reinstall the dash & then get the new seat mounted so I can determine the height of the harness bar. Once the harness bar is in I can make the rear seat support & put the braces from the main hoop to the tunnel & it will be done. Hopefully soon so I can get it out of here.

    Job was way more of a hassle than I thought. Seems like it took forever but it is coming out nice. I will say I would think twice before doing another one. I bought a RCCS-14 finger control (north/south) for this job but I can't get used to it at all. Even just sitting at the bench it is very hard to ramp up & down. I think I would rather have an on/off switch.

    Since it is chrome-moly it all had to be tigged. The worst was the front down bars to the floor. No matter what I did I couldn't get all the way around. Tried all the tricks I know, mirror, tungsten stick out but just couldn't get my hands & helmet in position to see & weld about 3/4" in the back side. So I finally figured out a way to "cheat". I tigged what I could & then was able to mig what I couldn't using a mirror. Then I went back with one hand & washed it in with the tig. Looks good.
    MM250
    Trailblazer 250g
    22a feeder
    Lincoln ac/dc 225
    Victor O/A
    MM200 black face
    Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
    Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
    Arco roto-phase model M
    Vectrax 7x12 band saw
    Miller spectrum 875
    30a spoolgun w/wc-24
    Syncrowave 250
    RCCS-14

  7. #17
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    Last edited by MMW; 06-26-2013 at 06:51 AM.
    MM250
    Trailblazer 250g
    22a feeder
    Lincoln ac/dc 225
    Victor O/A
    MM200 black face
    Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
    Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
    Arco roto-phase model M
    Vectrax 7x12 band saw
    Miller spectrum 875
    30a spoolgun w/wc-24
    Syncrowave 250
    RCCS-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMW View Post
    . The worst was the front down bars to the floor. No matter what I did I couldn't get all the way around.
    I welded the floor plates to the bars on the bench for that location. I figured running the Mig in tight quarters to weld the plate to the floor was much easier that trying to Tig way in there.

    I used a helper to run the pedal for me rather than going with a finger control. It took a little bit to get the two of us coordinated but worked out OK in the end. I wouldn't want to do it that way if I needed to make a living welding cages but for my one off in the driveway it was fine.

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    I thought about welding the floor plates onto the tubes first but by that time it was to late, I had them welded to the floor already. I wish the cage maker (Midwest Chassis) included instructions or helpful hints with the kit. It would have saved me time in figuring it out. I will say any question I e-mailed to him he did answer quickly & the halo bar was bent wrong & he replaced it quickly after I sent him a pic explaining what was wrong. Earlier in this thread I mentioned that the customer service/shipping of this kit was not the best but I do believe that he has taken care of that. I have had nothing but good service in dealing direct with him. The fit was great as no adjustments were needed other than trimming & notching.
    MM250
    Trailblazer 250g
    22a feeder
    Lincoln ac/dc 225
    Victor O/A
    MM200 black face
    Whitney 30 ton hydraulic punch
    Lown 1/8x 36" power roller
    Arco roto-phase model M
    Vectrax 7x12 band saw
    Miller spectrum 875
    30a spoolgun w/wc-24
    Syncrowave 250
    RCCS-14

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