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    Default Weldcraft LS1725r

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weldcraft-LS...item3a7bfb078e

    Looking at the above torch. Can't find much info on it or pictures other than this one. It looks like it has a momentary switch as well as an amp control built in. Is this correct? What I'm thinking is if starting out you set the amp control close to where you want & use the button it will only require minor adjustments as opposed to having to ramp up/down the control each time. Am I looking at this correctly?

    Next question would be will it fit an older Synch 250 with a power block? I would assume the 14 pin would plug right in but what style connector for the power/gas does it come with?
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    Default Weldcraft LS1725r

    You are correct it is a wp-17 w/ built in finger control. It has a 14 pin connection. So if your sync will work with a wp17 and a 14 pin it will work. I am pretty sure it will work just have to match the adapters for the torch and as long as your machine has a built in gas solenoid.
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    Default Weldcraft LS1725r

    I have one if you want to try before you purchase it
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    Quote Originally Posted by go2building View Post
    I have one if you want to try before you purchase it
    Kevin
    Thanks for the offer. Does it work the way I think it does in that you can set the amps at what you want with the thumb wheel ahead of time? Then when you use the switch your immediately at welding amps so you only need minor adjusting instead of trying to ramp it from zero up to the set amps? What power/gas hookup does it come with. The sales photos & descriptions are vague. I assume it has a dinse connector? Is this removeable so I could just screw it into my power block?

    I was thinking of getting the CK north south control but then happened upon this one. The main complaint I read with finger controls is the amount of movement required to go from zero to max & back again. This seems like it would solve that issue if I'm viewing the pics correctly.
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    Default Weldcraft LS1725r

    It works like a remote with an on off button.
    The problem is you can't move the controller, like you can with a Velcro mounted controller.
    I'm local to you, you should try it first.
    If I tried it first I don't think I would have got it!!
    Kevin

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    Default Weldcraft LS1725r

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    This appears to be the torch which Miller supplies with the Diversion 165 and 180 machines. I had a 165 for 3 years before upgrading to a Dynasty. Allow me to provide my thoughts on the torch...

    The grip is real nice - for a hammer or meat cleaver. It fits naturally into the curve of the palm of the hand. However, unless you are an alien, or otherwise blessed with an extra finger growing out between your thumb and index finger, it is somewhat awkward to access and manipulate the controls.

    The control module (push button and amp control all in one) plugs onto a tiny computer like plug which is soldered onto the control cable. The control cable is basically computer Cat5 network cable and terminates in an RJ45 (giant phone) plug. At least this is how it is configured on the Diversion. I would call Weldfabulous and make sure that the torch they are selling is terminated with a 14 pin AMP or Amphenol plug to match your welder.

    Also ask them how long are the cables and sheath provided with the torch. And as to the sheath... if it is the same one provided with the Diversion... it is about as flexible as a fire hose. Make sure the power cable/hose is NOT the Diversion specific one. It has a hard wired power block built in.

    As to operation of the torch... that depends on the welder. The finger tip control only sends a couple of signals to the welder. I see no reason why you could not pre-set the amperage and switch it on and off with the button. The Diversion had a neat tack feature. Set the amps, push and HOLD the button and it would tack and switch OFF when the button was released. Again, this is a feature of the welder, not the torch.

    And finally... weldfabulous has the torch cheaper on their web site than they are listing it on evilbay

    Ken

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