Dynasty 200 dx purchase

[JOHN1]

Getting ready to buy a Dynasty 200 DX.

Is it better to buy machine only and buy accessories (torch, water cooler etc) separately or buy the package? What is the determining factor for "air" vs "water" cooled".

Also if you opt for "air cooled" can u switch it to water cooled at a later date?

Obvoiusly, new to Tig.

I will being using TIG maybe five hours per week, how do I determine what size Argon tank needed? Which torch, any suggestions.

God Bless
John

[Broccoli1]

http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/TIGhandbook/

I would just buy the package- you can certainly piece it together but for a beginner the package makes it easy since everything you need is in it.

You can go with a water cooled torch later, no problem.

Water cooled keeps the torch cool so you can weld hotter and longer.

Air cooled package with foot pedal
http://store.cyberweld.com/dy200dxaipaf.html

[go2building]

Water cooled torches are smaller than air cooled and will handle higher amps.
More info is needed:
Where are you using it ( shop or portable)
What are you welding ( size, aluminum, steel)
What I did, when I got my Dynasty 200, was to get the water cooled runner package with the wireless remote and added an are cooled touch for portable uses.
Kevin

[JOHN1]

Water cooled torches are smaller than air cooled and will handle higher amps.
More info is needed:
Where are you using it ( shop or portable)
What are you welding ( size, aluminum, steel)
What I did, when I got my Dynasty 200, was to get the water cooled runner package with the wireless remote and added an are cooled touch for portable uses.
Kevin

I restore vehicles and some fabrication, 50% steel 50% aluminum will be for shop, but if needed portable I guess. $ is not the issue at present but do not want to over buy, or "I wish i had" type thing.

Max aluminum and steel is 1/4"

Am a disabled Vet and trying to set up for more income at home shop.

Also, I do some trailer/hitch work, is the "stick" mode on the 200 capable of this, mostly 1/2"?

God Bless
John

[shovelon]

Hi John,

Being new to tig, the contractor kit/with foot control has everything you will need, and is spec'ed right. The steel ground clamp is cheesy, but upgrades in brass or bronze are quite cheap depending on what style you want.

You get a nice torch parts kit with the contractors kit. I purchased a few stubby gas lens parts for production work and am very happy with them. I can also pull off the WP17 torch, and put on a smaller WP-9 torch that takes the WP-20 torch parts of which I have dozens of. But I would not push more than 100 amps thru it. The wired finger control torches iin the finger control contractor kit are a pain in the rear to change out for different torches.

I also picked up a CK rotary finger strap on current controller for field work. Due to some stiffness in my forefingers and thumb joint(arthritis?) I cannot feel the small tab on the slide switch types. I can feel the belt thru my gloves and have full dexterity to get the job done.

Good luck with your decision. You will not be disappointed with the 200DX if you report back here and let us work with you on parameters. My little dynasty has magical properties, but it does help that I know what a quality tig machine is.

The stick side I have no clue as I have no use whatsoever for stick. My next purchase will be the Hobart Trek180 mig if they ever choose to put a spoolgun feature on it. Migs fill my stick needs.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Terry

[JOHN1]

Hi John,

Being new to tig, the contractor kit/with foot control has everything you will need, and is spec'ed right. The steel ground clamp is cheesy, but upgrades in brass or bronze are quite cheap depending on what style you want.

You get a nice torch parts kit with the contractors kit. I purchased a few stubby gas lens parts for production work and am very happy with them. I can also pull off the WP17 torch, and put on a smaller WP-9 torch that takes the WP-20 torch parts of which I have dozens of. But I would not push more than 100 amps thru it. The wired finger control torches iin the finger control contractor kit are a pain in the rear to change out for different torches.

I also picked up a CK rotary finger strap on current controller for field work. Due to some stiffness in my forefingers and thumb joint(arthritis?) I cannot feel the small tab on the slide switch types. I can feel the belt thru my gloves and have full dexterity to get the job done.

Good luck with your decision. You will not be disappointed with the 200DX if you report back here and let us work with you on parameters. My little dynasty has magical properties, but it does help that I know what a quality tig machine is.

The stick side I have no clue as I have no use whatsoever for stick. My next purchase will be the Hobart Trek180 mig if they ever choose to put a spoolgun feature on it. Migs fill my stick needs.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Terry

Thanks so very much for the info.
Should I get the water cooled now or wait, depending how hard it is to upgrade?

God Bless
John

[Old Skool]

If money isn't an issue get it now.

[JOHN1]

Hi John,

Being new to tig, the contractor kit/with foot control has everything you will need, and is spec'ed right. The steel ground clamp is cheesy, but upgrades in brass or bronze are quite cheap depending on what style you want.

You get a nice torch parts kit with the contractors kit. I purchased a few stubby gas lens parts for production work and am very happy with them. I can also pull off the WP17 torch, and put on a smaller WP-9 torch that takes the WP-20 torch parts of which I have dozens of. But I would not push more than 100 amps thru it. The wired finger control torches iin the finger control contractor kit are a pain in the rear to change out for different torches.

I also picked up a CK rotary finger strap on current controller for field work. Due to some stiffness in my forefingers and thumb joint(arthritis?) I cannot feel the small tab on the slide switch types. I can feel the belt thru my gloves and have full dexterity to get the job done.

Good luck with your decision. You will not be disappointed with the 200DX if you report back here and let us work with you on parameters. My little dynasty has magical properties, but it does help that I know what a quality tig machine is.

The stick side I have no clue as I have no use whatsoever for stick. My next purchase will be the Hobart Trek180 mig if they ever choose to put a spoolgun feature on it. Migs fill my stick needs.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Terry

OK, SO THE 200DX COMPLETE PACKAGE (WATER COOLED) FROM CYBERWELD IT IS (951139).
Question: Should I wish to go out of the shop and go air cooled, what additionall do I need and how difficult to change?

Thanks
John

[bridgeportBJ]

Go with water cooled air cooled are big and "clumzee". I tried a air cool when
I first got my 250 syncro. As soon as I could aford it I switched. 250 amp is
all you'll ever need. I restore cars as well mostly British. Hope you have a good
Mig as well.

[JOHN1]

go with water cooled air cooled are big and "clumzee". I tried a air cool when
i first got my 250 syncro. As soon as i could aford it i switched. 250 amp is
all you'll ever need. I restore cars as well mostly british. Hope you have a good
mig as well.

thanks for the info, yep got the older (non digital) millermatic vintage
(250).

God bless
john