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    Default Dynasty 200dx accept 575v input?

    I am pretty much sold on the Dynasty 200dx for both home and use at work. I live in Canada, and my only concern is the standard power in the industrial setting I work in is 575v three phase. I know I could just plug into 110 but I would prefer to use the higher output available to me.


    The literature provided by Miller and my welding supply rep. tell me that the input range for the welder is 110 to 460 volt max but some of my research online has people claiming that the input range is up to 575. I know common sense tells me that the miller specs should be what I should trust, but is there truth to the 575 input. Would the auto-line managment system kick in and modify the current to 460 or would I fry the machine. Or, for arguments sake, could I just hook up two of the phases in my pigtail for 220 and the autoline would do the rest?

    Any help on this would be very much appreciated.

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    NO, Miller has had alot of trouble with autoline and 575. you best bet is to simply get a stepdown transformer from 575 to 460

    Even the XMT 350 and xmt 304 has had alot of problems on 575. Rental firms like Cat rentals I've advised to supply these transformers, so from constant failures to none.

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    We run xmt's at work daily on 575v 3 phase (actually 550v) with no issues.
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    Yes, if you have a qualitly regulated power supply, but, 575 actually runs in most shops at 600 +

    There is NO 550 anyways, no idea where you came up with that figure??

    And your machines do go in for service

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    Default Thanks

    Thanks for the head's up. The seller told me it could be done, the transformer would probably be cheaper than whatever I fry trying the 575. I appreciate you taking the time to help me cruiser. (Eh).

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    Just a note: Canada voltages are:
    120 single phase
    200 & 208 3 phase
    230 twin and 3 phase, not very common as 3 phase though
    460 3 phase
    575 3 phase

    There is no 220, 480, or especially 550. I know everyone likes to call the 230 ...220, and the 460 ...480. No one says 550, its always 600

    When a problem arrises, I always ask the customer what his power is and its always 220. When I ask him what the real power is ,he doesn't have a clue.

    And I know everyone running thier machine in an industrial setting at 230, when in fact the line power is 200 or 208.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruizer View Post
    Just a note: Canada voltages are:
    120 single phase
    200 & 208 3 phase
    230 twin and 3 phase, not very common as 3 phase though
    460 3 phase
    575 3 phase

    There is no 220, 480, or especially 550. I know everyone likes to call the 230 ...220, and the 460 ...480. No one says 550, its always 600

    When a problem arrises, I always ask the customer what his power is and its always 220. When I ask him what the real power is ,he doesn't have a clue.

    And I know everyone running thier machine in an industrial setting at 230, when in fact the line power is 200 or 208.
    Our journeyman electricians set up the machines. Our voltage is listed at 575v 3 phase. The actual voltage often measures 550-560v. (+ or - 10% is not uncommon in the industrial plant we work in) No problems there. They often put 550v stickers on the back of the machines. We never see 600v. All our electric motors also run on 575 3 phase.
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    Nice to see someone who know what they are talking about. The proof is always in what works not what should or should not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoeproe View Post
    Our journeyman electricians set up the machines. Our voltage is listed at 575v 3 phase. The actual voltage often measures 550-560v. (+ or - 10% is not uncommon in the industrial plant we work in) No problems there. They often put 550v stickers on the back of the machines. We never see 600v. All our electric motors also run on 575 3 phase.
    We don't get that in the Western Provinces, maybe something to do with your Quebec power...

    and Weldbay, I have no idea what your going on about. Is it a saleman bable, I don't know....

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    I need to make a correction. All our smaller electric motors (200hp and under) run on 575 3phase power at the plant I work in.
    The larger electric motors (200hp+) run on 2300v power and we have a bank of 5500hp electric motors that run on 15000v power.
    No Quebec power here in Northwest Ontario. This is NW Ontario power.
    Playing with 575v power is child's play in a power plant with high voltage power.
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    Ironworker Welder
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    Owner/Operator Devlin Metal Works
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