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    Question Looking for advice, preferably from Pipe Welders.

    Hey all,
    I'll start by simply introducing myself, and giving you a background on my career in welding and fabrication. My name is Keyton Brewer, and I am 20 years old about to hit 21. I took 2 years of welding fabrication classes in highschool, attended the SkillsUSA IL State competition and finished 8th out of 48. I was in the National Technical Honor Society, maintained a 4.0GPA in all my welding/fab classes. I passed my qualification test for structural 3G and 4G SMAW 7018. Basically to sum it up, I love welding and learning more and more about welding.
    When I graduated highschool I moved to California to help my father with his medical business, and then I eventually moved back to the midwest and am currently located in Indiana. I have worked at a trucking company and truck repair shop as a welder/fabricator and mechanic for two years.
    Now that I am approaching 21, I am starting to look out for the rest of my life, and where I want to be in the next 5 years. Obviously I know I NEED to be doing something involved in the Welding Industry. I love the work and the people in the business. The reason I am on here, typing away is because I would like some advice from the experienced professionals on which way they would go.
    I have been looking at heading to Tulsa, OK and attending the Tulsa Welding School for their Professional Welder and AOS programs. The past two years I have been setting money aside to go back to school, and now I am to the point where I think I can do it. My question is:
    - Is TWS as good as it appears? I know its one of the big three...
    - Is it worth $15k a course?
    - Where can I go after completion?

    I would like to end up in the Pipe Welding industry, this is something I have strived after since I started welding. I also believe it is something I can do, I just need more experience and skill under my belt. I know I need to start from the bottom, but where do I start, and where is the best location to go to? I am also interested in obtaining my CPWI, I feel it is something good to have on a resume, even if you are a welder?
    Once completion of my schooling, what do I need to get started and where should I look to get started?

    ALSO, if anyone is located around the Tulsa, OK area are there any welding shops looking for workers? I would like to find some part time, or full-time work while I am attending school.

    Thank you for reading,
    Keyton Brewer
    My TOYS...
    -Millermatic 250 mig
    -Syncrowave 200 Tig/Stick
    --2008 Dodge Cummins--


    My future toy...
    --Miller Trailblazer 302 diesel--

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    Default Looking for advice, preferably from Pipe Welders.

    If your already a welder and fabricator screw the tulsa school of welding move to Alaska or Louisiana or north dakato and join the many newcomers in the growing oil and gas industry. You can start as a structual hand all ya need to do is pass 7018 plate test overhead and 6g then you'll get 28-32 an hour depending on fabricating skills... Then I guarantee within a years time if you apply your self your learn too fit and weld pipe ... Then your in the good money 34-40 an hour . Go get some ! I love making as much as white collar executives when I only have a high school education in the last 11 years my worst years income was 90k the best was 145k but that was gettn it I didn't do much else but work that year

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    Quote Originally Posted by drpipe View Post
    If your already a welder and fabricator screw the tulsa school of welding move to Alaska or Louisiana or north dakato and join the many newcomers in the growing oil and gas industry. You can start as a structual hand all ya need to do is pass 7018 plate test overhead and 6g then you'll get 28-32 an hour depending on fabricating skills... Then I guarantee within a years time if you apply your self your learn too fit and weld pipe ... Then your in the good money 34-40 an hour . Go get some ! I love making as much as white collar executives when I only have a high school education in the last 11 years my worst years income was 90k the best was 145k but that was gettn it I didn't do much else but work that year
    Just curious, when you go to these locations and want to get to work. How are you showing up, with a full rig, or do they supply the rigs? I know a friend of mine went up to Alaska the year he got out of H/S and he spent all this money to buy a truck and make a **** of a welding rig. He got up there, and they paid him for his rig and supplies, along with about 110k a year. Is that the approach to take, or work in slowly?
    My TOYS...
    -Millermatic 250 mig
    -Syncrowave 200 Tig/Stick
    --2008 Dodge Cummins--


    My future toy...
    --Miller Trailblazer 302 diesel--

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    It says your future welder is a TB302 diesel if you spend that kind of money for a bit more you can get a low speed diesel like a pro300. but maybe you have your reasons for the TB302.

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    Williston North Dakota, Gillette wyoming, and Cheyenne wyoming area are all using welders with their own rigs on pipelines. their tests are simple: pass a 6g on the pipe sixe that they are using and you are good to go, if you can maintain quality welds. if you are gonna try pipelining, you will want a linclon pipeliner, SA-200, SAE-300 dc welder. normally they will have you running with 6010 bead rod and 7014. make sure you have a pancake. no pipeline welder welds with other than a pancake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcadams View Post
    Williston North Dakota, Gillette wyoming, and Cheyenne wyoming area are all using welders with their own rigs on pipelines. their tests are simple: pass a 6g on the pipe sixe that they are using and you are good to go, if you can maintain quality welds. if you are gonna try pipelining, you will want a linclon pipeliner, SA-200, SAE-300 dc welder. normally they will have you running with 6010 bead rod and 7014. make sure you have a pancake. no pipeline welder welds with other than a pancake.
    Thank you for that info sir. That is funny you mention a Pancake, my welding instructor in HS knew I wanted to work on the pipeline, so for graduation he gave me a pancake kind of as a joke. What brand is most popular? I know there is a lot of "opinions," about the style pancake you have on the pipelines. The California guys get grief all the time about their style pancake...haha.
    My TOYS...
    -Millermatic 250 mig
    -Syncrowave 200 Tig/Stick
    --2008 Dodge Cummins--


    My future toy...
    --Miller Trailblazer 302 diesel--

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcadams View Post
    Williston North Dakota, Gillette wyoming, and Cheyenne wyoming area are all using welders with their own rigs on pipelines. their tests are simple: pass a 6g on the pipe sixe that they are using and you are good to go, if you can maintain quality welds. if you are gonna try pipelining, you will want a linclon pipeliner, SA-200, SAE-300 dc welder. normally they will have you running with 6010 bead rod and 7014. make sure you have a pancake. no pipeline welder welds with other than a pancake.
    7014?! Shoot, we have to run 7010 or the hyppe rod. 5p+ with a 5 for the root and hot pass depending on the the tester, then 3's all the way out.

    The Lincolns mentioned above are nice, ran the 300, and a Ranger 10 for a while, but the Pipe pro 304 is all that and then some. I have to do alot of mig and the Lincoln aren't as smooth and running 5p+ for the root.......its like butter!

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    7014 on pipeline? you sure about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drpipe View Post
    If your already a welder and fabricator screw the tulsa school of welding move to Alaska or Louisiana or north dakato and join the many newcomers in the growing oil and gas industry. You can start as a structual hand all ya need to do is pass 7018 plate test overhead and 6g then you'll get 28-32 an hour depending on fabricating skills... Then I guarantee within a years time if you apply your self your learn too fit and weld pipe ... Then your in the good money 34-40 an hour . Go get some ! I love making as much as white collar executives when I only have a high school education in the last 11 years my worst years income was 90k the best was 145k but that was gettn it I didn't do much else but work that year


    i agree with moving down here to louisiana the only thing diferent that i would do is i would got to every contrac company you can find down here and fill out an app.you'll get lots of experience in different situations this way. most of the yards around here need welders badly the problem about working for just one is you only do what they have you do rather than if you was contracing you might be welding structural one day and be welding on the pipeline the next. you make real good money if you get on a laybarge and weld pipe you eat good and have lots of sitting around doing nuthing down time.another good thing about contracing is you get to meet lots of people and after a while you get your little black book filled with contact numbers this way when one company isn't in need of you you have your book to fall back on if you do a good job they will be calling you long before you will have to call them. so pack your cloths and come on down here and make some money.lol

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    I went a very similar route as you did, I'm 27 now, went to a regular 4 yr college for a while taking mech eng. decided it wasn't for me, and went to community college to take welding, then ended up getting a job as a tractor trailer mechanic for 4 years. Took a job at a shipyard here building nuclear subs, and still paying off the snap-on, and college bills, haha. The nice thing about this place is they have their own welding school, which they pay you to go through. Having already welded previously, I flew through their structural training and got sent right to pipe welding, and have been doing it ever since.

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