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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelon View Post
    I don't take advantage of the pulse because it compromises the strenght of the joint.
    Hmmm...I've heard you say pulse is "useless on a Sync 250" (which makes no sense)...and now this.

    Just out of curiosity, how does pulse "compromise the strength of the joint"? I never heard that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    Hmmm...I've heard you say pulse is "useless on a Sync 250" (which makes no sense)...and now this.

    Just out of curiosity, how does pulse "compromise the strength of the joint"? I never heard that.
    That would be high speed pulse, alum mig, which is virtually spray at all times. I don't use it for fillets because I get low penetration and cracking. Helium may help but I just don't use the pulse and Argon is fine.

    As far as pulsed tig, the slow speed pulse at max 10pps does little if anything. Maybe someone found a use for it. If it is a cadence feature, I am well past that. I have had tried slow speed pulse on Syncrowaves. Could never justify what it did, or it just slowed me down.

    Mr. Sundown says he uses 10pps on his sync. More power to him. I have tried to duplicate the effect with my Dynastys, but can't figure it out. In fact all 10pps does for me is give me eye strain.

    So how would high speed pulsed alum mig be of any benefit?
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    Default Dynasty 280DX Update

    We've consulted with TIG product manager Brent Williams who reports "we are currently preparing for the release of the product - taking the necessary steps to verify quality and performance. We appreciate everyone's patience & continued interest in the new product...and we expect to begin rolling out the product in the near future - so stay tuned & be on the lookout for the release."

    If you want more detailed information, you can visit the 280DX webpage. Fill out the interest form and you'll be alerted the moment the new machine becomes available.

  4. #34
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    Sorry, Shovelon, I missed the gearshift from TIG to MIG. My bad.
    (I thought Sundown was using 1pps..?)

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    Shovelon,

    You never welded thinner SS with a Syncrowave?

    Slow speed pulsing is great for welding thinwall SS tubing (boat rails, etc).

    With the high speed pulsing on the Dynasty's, you're getting as much effect from "puddle aggitation" as you are from pulsing. Different animal.

    As far as pulsed mig and aluminum. When you find yourself doing a lot of "out of postion" welds, you'll understand the benefit of pulsed mig when doing aluminum, or mild steel for that matter.

    My feelings on the inverters (Dynasty's in particular) is that they will allow an advanced tigger to move to another level of capability. On the other hand, an experienced tigger, not dealing with the exotics, can do everything he needs done with a Syncrowave.

    Shovelon makes a big thing about the power consumption of a Syncrowave vs a Dynasty. In his PARTICULAR situation, that may be the case. However, for the small shop or guy working out of his garage the difference in electrical usage will be in the noise level. Kinda like one shop flowing argon at 16 CFH and one shop flowing argon at 18 CFH. Personally, using a Dynasty 350 vs a Syncrowave 250 may save me enough to buy a cup of coffee at 7/11 each month (and I have their mug and pay refill price).

    For a shop running 10+ tig welders, 8-10 hours a day it may be a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SundownIII View Post
    Shovelon,

    You never welded thinner SS with a Syncrowave?

    Slow speed pulsing is great for welding thinwall SS tubing (boat rails, etc).

    With the high speed pulsing on the Dynasty's, you're getting as much effect from "puddle aggitation" as you are from pulsing. Different animal.

    As far as pulsed mig and aluminum. When you find yourself doing a lot of "out of postion" welds, you'll understand the benefit of pulsed mig when doing aluminum, or mild steel for that matter.

    My feelings on the inverters (Dynasty's in particular) is that they will allow an advanced tigger to move to another level of capability. On the other hand, an experienced tigger, not dealing with the exotics, can do everything he needs done with a Syncrowave.

    Shovelon makes a big thing about the power consumption of a Syncrowave vs a Dynasty. In his PARTICULAR situation, that may be the case. However, for the small shop or guy working out of his garage the difference in electrical usage will be in the noise level. Kinda like one shop flowing argon at 16 CFH and one shop flowing argon at 18 CFH. Personally, using a Dynasty 350 vs a Syncrowave 250 may save me enough to buy a cup of coffee at 7/11 each month (and I have their mug and pay refill price).

    For a shop running 10+ tig welders, 8-10 hours a day it may be a different story.
    Well, we can agree to disagree if you are willing.

    When the 280 basic comes out, it will change the welding world. The culmination of everything inverter.

    You might be right about pulsed alum mig. I just can't make it work in spray. And alum sprays.
    Last edited by shovelon; 07-27-2012 at 10:01 AM. Reason: old
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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelon View Post
    Well, we can agree to disagree if you are willing.

    When the 280 basic comes out, it will change the welding world. The culmination of everything inverter.

    You might be right about pulsed alum mig. I just can't make it work in spray. And alum sprays.
    It will be hard pressed to beat the 350
    Last edited by Gunner12R; 08-03-2012 at 04:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner12R View Post
    It will be hard pressed to beat the 350
    Any 11 year old will to set up and use the Dynasty280 base model.
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    yea for 2800-3K at retail pricing, you don't get much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemidude View Post
    yea for 2800-3K at retail pricing, you don't get much.
    Maybe this is more to your liking. The DX.
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