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  1. #1
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    Default Learning to TIG in Chicago ??

    After working (playing!) with MIG for a while on stainless/mild/alum, I got cocky and bought a Dynasty 200DX.. I've wasted countless hours and bottles of Argon burning through various metals and I can't weld with this thing worth a crap. Any advice on what/where I can get some good info/training to properly use this? I'd really like to do some beatiful work on stainless & alum, but I guess I have to learn to crawl before I can walk here...

    Any recommendations on online courses, videos, community colleges or seminars in or around Chicago? Any tips on what the best course for learning would be? I've seen classes ranging from $900 - $2200 and while I'd rather not spend the upper end of that range, I guess I'll do what I have to... I'd appreciate any advice you guys can offer. If learning from videos/books is realistic, that would be nice too. Thanks!

    Rob

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    Rob

    You can learn tig without going to a class but it just takes longer. Short of that, you can seek out an experienced tig welder who would spend a few hours with you (for liquid compensation) and save hours and $$ in wasted time and effort. That's what I would do. A knowledgeable welder could watch and guide you and have you doing proficient welding in a few hours.
    Do some homework first though to take advantage of any lessons offered. Understand the process and learn the filler requirements and amp settings from reference materials here on line or from Miller's tech library. Get the student package for around $25. It's a **** of a deal.
    Build something, anything. I find it really gives you a boost when you're trying to do a project to make the welds hold and look good because it's a reflection of your craftsmanship.
    Remember, no practice is wasted time if you learn something from every weld bead. The only bad thing about having one of the best machines on the market is.....you can't blame the machine for bad welds.
    Good luck.

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    Tig is sort of like welding with a torch. Just you have way more control of your heat. Most people who have "gas" welded have little difficulty TIG welding. Although MIG is the great, No one should learn to weld with MIG first. It spoils and really doesn't teach you to weld. Learning to weld, you should start with Gas, [welding, brazing, soldering etc] then sm.a.w [stick] then G.M.A.W [MIG] then maybe G.T.A.W [tig]. If you just started welding with Mig and now moved to Tig, the learning curve will be longer but not impossible. There are lots of books you can read and after you set up the machine the rest is you. You have a great machine. Just my opinon on all the above of course. good luck. Have fun
    Scott
    HMW [Heavy Metal welding]

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    Thanks for the advice, guys. I ordered the Miller Student package, that does seem like a lot of stuff for $25...I tried some more welds today, and made a few good ones. I think I'm gonna follow WB5JHY's advice and see if I can find someone skilled at TIG to work with me for a couple hours, to make sure I have my hand movements down, and so I know how to read the puddle better...

    Rob

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    I would also recommend the book "Welding Principles and Applications" fifth edition by Larry Jeffus - it's not cheap - worth every cent.

    Steve

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    Hey Steve...looks like the reviewers on amazon agree with you! I ordered it (from buy.com, 10% cheaper than amazon). Thanks for the tip. I'm getting a bit better on the steel, still a little confused on exactly what to do with the torch after the puddle starts. Do you move the puddle in a straight line? Pull back as you add the filler, pause it, move it in circles, or just keep it moving at a steady rate? It seems like all those get the job done, but whats the right way to do it?

    thx

    Rob

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    There is one thing for sure - keep the TIG electrode out of the weld puddle This is a hobby for me and so far removed from what I do - I get a "you're kidding" from peers when they ask what I like to do for fun.

    Let me know what you think about the book when you get it.

    Steve

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    Default slow tig

    I taught myself to tig Im by no means an expert. I purchased a book & a miller 180 recomended by the experts at my local welding supply. you have to go slow I wanted a mig however I was told for the alluminum I weld the tig was the way to go. make sure your weld joint is clean ( very clean) and weld slowly one spot at a time. make sure you are sitting in a comforatable position the dynasty is supose to be eaiser to use than the 180 I purchased. If your metal is not clean it will splater If that happens stop & clean the area. sand wipe with asatone.

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    Everyone laugh now - before you read further...

    I had a project design finished, but my metal suppy isn't open on the weekend so I found some aluminum at OSH. I founfd out the hard way that you can't weld anodized aluminium....

    It kind of bursts - when the heat level gets to high.

    Steve

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    Default bead quality

    This thread is just what I was looking for. I have a sync 250. I've studied the calculators for tungsten size, filler size, amps, etc. I've studied the educational page on Miller's site. I weld as a hobby, but also can't really seem to get it. I would say my biggest problem is the filler metal. I cannot get it to melt nicely in the puddle - it tends to "stick" to the puddle. Other times it goes right through the puddle, BUT I don't have a hole in the finished workpiece like "burn through".
    Any help?

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