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    Default Lincoln power MIG 210 MP..

    I was looking at purchasing the power mig 20 mp. I've heard great things for the most part and wondered if anyone had any input

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    Quote Originally Posted by CH805 View Post
    I was looking at purchasing the power mig 20 mp. I've heard great things for the most part and wondered if anyone had any input

    going to buy one as soon as the 6 week back log is done. Very portable unit. Also for $ 999 its a steal.
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    We won't know the full story for a few years...

    their reliability and quality will only be revealed after they have been in real world use for some time..

    Early buyers should understand that they are Beta-Testers....

    I usually wait till a model has been out for a while and they have shaken out the bugs and kinks...

    BTW... Where is this one made?? another Italian one...?? or Chinese..??..or..??

    Some of the Lincoln Invertec's were Italian and had a dismal service and reliability history
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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    We won't know the full story for a few years...

    their reliability and quality will only be revealed after they have been in real world use for some time..

    Early buyers should understand that they are Beta-Testers....

    I usually wait till a model has been out for a while and they have shaken out the bugs and kinks...

    BTW... Where is this one made?? another Italian one...?? or Chinese..??..or..??

    Some of the Lincoln Invertec's were Italian and had a dismal service and reliability history
    so did the first 5 YEARS OF DYNASTYS worst arc starts of a high dollar machine ive ever used not bashing Miller just a bad machine and when the blue lightning came out you couldn't upgrade a part or download you had a paper weight with no parts or support {at least in my area** so we were all 5yrs. of beta testers and again not bashing have several Millers maxstar 150 sth has one of the nicest tig starts and arc starts in my opinion, but my dynasty 03 version has been a joke from the get go still have it 12 yrs later with about 2-3 hrs on it cause its that frusterating to use and try to restart a arc when it works its nice,

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat h View Post
    so did the first 5 YEARS OF DYNASTYS worst arc starts of a high dollar machine ive ever used not bashing Miller just a bad machine and when the blue lightning came out you couldn't upgrade a part or download you had a paper weight with no parts or support {at least in my area** so we were all 5yrs. of beta testers and again not bashing have several Millers maxstar 150 sth has one of the nicest tig starts and arc starts in my opinion, but my dynasty 03 version has been a joke from the get go still have it 12 yrs later with about 2-3 hrs on it cause its that frusterating to use and try to restart a arc when it works its nice,
    I waited a couple of years before I bought my Dynasties Too... same for My MM350P.... not very interested in being a Beta Tester...
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    “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

    My Blue Stuff:
    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    I waited a couple of years before I bought my Dynasties Too... same for My MM350P.... not very interested in being a Beta Tester...
    to compare a unit which sells for 999, vs a dynasty which sells for 4-5k or a 350mp which is a 4k machine is a poor comparsion. The 210 has a 3 year warranty if that machine lasts 3 years and blows up i will go buy a new one. Unless it turns out to be the biggest piece of junk out there, this machine will change the entire entry level welder market.
    A high doller machine like a dynasty should be expected to last for years in an industrial setting, and yes i would not want the first batch run of them. However a simple machine like the 210mp i dont have any issue being a beta tester. After 5 minutes of welding with it i was hooked, it welded great. I tried to buy it but my local welding company informed me it was a demo unit only!!
    This mp is small enough to be portable, powerful enough to be useful, and cheap enough to be disposable. Im betting this unit will cut my ln25 time in half. Also this unit if it field proves well will make the multimatic 200 a short lived miller product. Who would pay double for a machine which is less powerful and slightly lighter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryagn5 View Post
    to compare a unit which sells for 999, vs a dynasty which sells for 4-5k or a 350mp which is a 4k machine is a poor comparsion. The 210 has a 3 year warranty if that machine lasts 3 years and blows up i will go buy a new one. Unless it turns out to be the biggest piece of junk out there, this machine will change the entire entry level welder market.
    A high doller machine like a dynasty should be expected to last for years in an industrial setting, and yes i would not want the first batch run of them. However a simple machine like the 210mp i dont have any issue being a beta tester. After 5 minutes of welding with it i was hooked, it welded great. I tried to buy it but my local welding company informed me it was a demo unit only!!
    This mp is small enough to be portable, powerful enough to be useful, and cheap enough to be disposable. Im betting this unit will cut my ln25 time in half. Also this unit if it field proves well will make the multimatic 200 a short lived miller product. Who would pay double for a machine which is less powerful and slightly lighter?
    Kevin
    So.... you're sayin that little Lincoln 210 Mp is disposable anyway so why worry...??

    inexpensive... but not uncomplicated..

    Lincoln got a pretty bad black eye with the Italian Invertecs... and this one is made where?? to meet that pricepoint....?

    At $1000 it is probably a HUGE investment for the average hobbiest... if it only lasts for the 3 year warrantee period..?? Would not be a very good buy .. would it...

    Beta-Testers..?? or disposable..??... either way.. it sounds less and less like a bargain to me......
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    *******************************************
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

    “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

    My Blue Stuff:
    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

    TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by H80N View Post
    So.... you're sayin that little Lincoln 210 Mp is disposable anyway so why worry...??

    inexpensive... but not uncomplicated..

    Lincoln got a pretty bad black eye with the Italian Invertecs... and this one is made where?? to meet that pricepoint....

    Beta-Testers......
    i said if it breaks in 3 years..yes i consider it disposable. Would i pay to have it looked at? No. Will it last longer..maybe but I spend more than $999 in 3 years on batteries for cordless tools. As for its orgins i believe it is made in mexico.
    Kevin
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    Yes, never cared for the Tig invertecs made in Italy, most are made in Poland now. Seemed to be Dynamite in a pretty case.



    Never the less, just look at the letter on the serial # "U" is Cleveland, "I" is Italy, "P" is Poland excettera

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