Thanks ViceGrip,

I think I'm starting to get the picture. I'll start out using the present setup of .023 for awhile and then try the .030 with and without the liner if I should I get into something around the 1/8"+ amount.

I only intended to do small jobs that I would have previously drilled holes and bolted things together.

Thanks for checking your setup, appreciate the response.

KY Dan