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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by calweld View Post
    Uhhh, not so quick, Engloid,,,,,, the reason our founding fathers wrote in the right to keep and bear arms was for protection from the government, not criminals .......
    I think we know that we're helpless against the govt already, aren't we?

    If we weren't, we'd not be paying so much for gas, have so many taxes, etc. We have so little control over our government (which is so huge and powerful) that it's a huge problem.

    As I said before...if they get the guns from the criminals, I'll give up mine also. The risk is greater that I'll need a firearm to defend myself against a criminal than I will against my government.

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    Many are injured or killed because they DO have quick access to a firearm in a moment of anger or fear...road rage etc. although there may have been an alternative action. But shooting them is so much easier.

    I'm sure that some of the ones that have done the school shootings have given indications of being troubled but with parents that are "TOO BUSY" it is not always recognized untill it's too late

    If one has a permit to carry, there is no reason to HIDE a gun.

    Maybe the reason we didn't have mass murder when most carried a firearm, in the Wild West Days, and I'm not sure we didn't, is that we shot others for stealing our horse, cattle, not accepting whiskey, or just looking at us wierd. We just killed a little every day not leaving enough left to be a mass. Look at the life span of
    Jessie James and the like. So much for the Golden Years.

    Many parents may never find out what their Angelic children did while they
    were bringing home the Bacon. I'm sure many have been shocked.

    If a young child get a set of cowboy guns, a toy assualt rifle etc. as a gift for Christmas or a birthday, they run around and play shooting at one another. I've never seen children simulate a wild safari hunt. Thanks to the violent movies and video games we have offered them to learn from. They have been taught a gun is the ultimate answer. Sad, don't you think?

    Engloid.....if children make it through the adolescent stage of life and
    survive, I congratulate the parents.
    Thanks for sharing your views and being a part of the forum.
    We'll talk again. Have a good day.

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    I was in the marines and my 2 boys [now 17 and 22] grew up playing Marines, pretending to shoot at everybody!!!! I personnally dont believe in all the feel good, time out crap and I think if somebody steals your horse, they should be shot Our society has become spoiled and growing a bunch of sissys for kids.. Teach the kids about things like guns, beer, boot in the butt etc. They are not stupid. If we as parents dont teach em someone else will. Most of all you cant spend enough time with them. And I dont mean just playing. Make em work too. I was always with my dad, and my boys were always with me, funny at 17 and 22 they still are, We work and play together still.

    Phew, that feels better

    Its an important topic and thanks for everybodys views, even if I don't agree...Your entitled!
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    Uuh, I have a bungee cord on my beer fridge.


    Oh I also own lots of weapons, most are locked up, the others won't be found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monte55 View Post
    If one has a permit to carry, there is no reason to HIDE a gun.
    Texas law requires the permit holder to CONCEAL the gun. It's unlawful to carry it exposed.
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim-TX View Post
    Texas law requires the permit holder to CONCEAL the gun. It's unlawful to carry it exposed.

    ha ha ha ha...Go texas
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMW View Post
    I was in the marines and my 2 boys [now 17 and 22] grew up playing Marines, pretending to shoot at everybody!!!! I personnally dont believe in all the feel good, time out crap and I think if somebody steals your horse, they should be shot Our society has become spoiled and growing a bunch of sissys for kids.. Teach the kids about things like guns, beer, boot in the butt etc. They are not stupid. If we as parents dont teach em someone else will. Most of all you cant spend enough time with them. And I dont mean just playing. Make em work too. I was always with my dad, and my boys were always with me, funny at 17 and 22 they still are, We work and play together still.

    Phew, that feels better

    Its an important topic and thanks for everybodys views, even if I don't agree...Your entitled!


    you said it.... even though i am too young/impatient to have kids (maybe in ten years) i agree that kids (even though some of you may think i are one) are being raised like girly men. you can see it on tv, in your neighborhoods, we have a "thug" problem from the ones around here.

    i was raised around guns i was shooting when i was 5 years old. it takes away form the curiosity and helps prevent accidents ,and acts of stupidity.

    And as for you being a Marine i say thank you, i didnt even go to my high school graduation,because i was in Marine Corps bootcamp . my dad was in the Navy,my mother was in the Air Force,my brother was Navy,and my granddad was in the Army.i never finished bootcamp i blew out my knee with two weeks remaining,and was given a medical discharge

    as for having a CHL, i dont have one i got a BAD temper. but i do like the new castle doctrine they just passed
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    Man, and I thought I drank alot of Beer, check out the size of that storage container....Paul, LOL
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    Sucks about almost making it to the end of boot camp after getting so close.
    Your family about hit up every branch of service, thats pretty cool
    Scott
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    except the coast guard
    my daddy always said i was IRONHEADED....
    feel free to P/M me

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