Miller Electric

Welding Discussion Forums

Home » Resources » Communities » Welding Discussion Forums
 
Miller Welding Discussion Forums - Powered by vBulletin

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 27
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Albion. IL
    Posts
    181

    Default Spoolmate 100 tip problems?

    I got spoolmate 100 on a 211. No problems with the 211 but the spoolmate is a different story! After a short while of welding aluminum the wire burns to the tip. Usually on start or restart. I am using 4043 .030 wire. Tried a .035 tip, reduced weld time, and changed voltage and wire speed. Clipped the ball on the wire on every start or restart. Wire brushed the work with a stainless steel wire brush everytime. These tips are like 9 bucks for five around here and when you go through 1 or 2 tips a job it gets expensive. I tried different distances of stickout changed the argon flow. Around 20 cfh is what I have been running the flow. It dont matter what thickness of material I am welding it still does it. Any ideas? I read somewhere on the forum that another member made a adapter and is using different tips on his spoolmate 100? I am at a loss on this one!

    Steve
    Dont force it, use a BIGGER hammer.

    Linde VI-252C and Linde wire feeder.
    Hobart Cyberwave 300c.
    HH 140.
    Miller Big 40.
    Lincoln SAE 200J.
    Hobart GR-303.
    Lincoln tombstone welder.
    TD Cutmaster 52.
    Hobart Stickmate.
    Miller 211 w/ Spoolgun.
    Lincoln SA 200.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Posts
    7,618

    Default

    Have to use special AL tips when using AL, ay for 030 wire the tips are actually 033.

    Can't really use 030 as the wire will pert near stop at the tip when the wire is hot, tough to use 035 as the wire comes out twirly, and tough to control

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Albion. IL
    Posts
    181

    Default

    Cruizer,
    Miller part# 186406 is the tips I have been using. Those are .035 tips. #186419 is the .030 tips. It burns off right end of the tip and welds itself to the inside. Its alot worse if you use .030 tip with .030 wire!

    Steve
    Dont force it, use a BIGGER hammer.

    Linde VI-252C and Linde wire feeder.
    Hobart Cyberwave 300c.
    HH 140.
    Miller Big 40.
    Lincoln SAE 200J.
    Hobart GR-303.
    Lincoln tombstone welder.
    TD Cutmaster 52.
    Hobart Stickmate.
    Miller 211 w/ Spoolgun.
    Lincoln SA 200.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    299

    Default

    to help out on lossing so many tips get a tip drill it comes with about 10 sizes of drill bits inside the handle . they are great for cleaning out cutting tips and work pretty good on aluminum spool gun tips too.my spool mate gun burns back sometimes and i just drill out the tip and get back at it again. if you can't find the tip drill at the welding store you can use a dremel drill bit .they come in some small sizes too but you have to use manual labor to drill it and not the dremel tool because that thing will spin that bit fast.use a tap and die holder to put the bit into and drill it out.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Edmonton, Alberta
    Posts
    7,618

    Default

    Just had a looksee, problem is that these Chinese spoolguns don't appear to use oversize tips for AL. So I guess the best thing would to make sure that the tip is recessed 1/8" in the nozzle.

    My guess is that the engineers were thinking that these guns wouldn't get used on a long pass because of the extra short duty cycles of the power sources.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Salem ,Ohio
    Posts
    3,898

    Cool

    The whole problem is the tip. The nose of it is too small for the heat. I have a conversion to change them to the regular Miller mig tip and the problem is solved. I can run .035 alum all day thru a standard .030 mig tip with zero issues. I can fix your nozzle to fit the bigger tips...Bob
    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48
    Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
    Metal Master Fab Salem, Oh 44460
    Birthplace of the Silver & Deming Drill
    1999 MM185 w/185 Spoolgun,1986 Thunderbolt AC/DC
    Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...php?albumid=48

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Albion. IL
    Posts
    181

    Default I thought Miller was made here in the states?

    Chinese spoolguns eh! So, Bob, you used your existing nozzle and cut it down and drilled and tapped it? I agree with you on the tip being the problem! It doesnt matter if its a 2 inch weld or a 4 inch weld after awhile you better be looking at the tip. I did notice that the very end of the tip turns dark color like oxidized copper color to almost black. It just dawned on me that the heating and cooling cycle of the tip is shrinking the hole that the wire goes through.

    Steve
    Dont force it, use a BIGGER hammer.

    Linde VI-252C and Linde wire feeder.
    Hobart Cyberwave 300c.
    HH 140.
    Miller Big 40.
    Lincoln SAE 200J.
    Hobart GR-303.
    Lincoln tombstone welder.
    TD Cutmaster 52.
    Hobart Stickmate.
    Miller 211 w/ Spoolgun.
    Lincoln SA 200.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Cave Creek Az
    Posts
    965

    Default

    I did mine after reading Bobs post some time ago, worked great.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Chico, Ca.
    Posts
    316

    Default

    i had the same problem using standard tips on my 30a but cured it by get alum tips for it.
    miller 225 bobcat
    miller aead200le (with miller hf tig trailer mounted)
    mm175, mm211, TA181i
    mm252 w/30a spool gun
    precision tig 225
    hobart stickmate LX ac/dc
    Speedglas 9100X & XX / Miller Digital Elite
    hypertherm 380 & cutmaster 52
    victor journeyman & super range
    ridgid chop saw, kalamazoo band saw
    steel max and evolution carbide saws
    6 4.5" & a 20lb 9" rockwell grinders
    case 580 backhoe (for what i can"t lift)
    if first you don't succeed
    trash the b#####d

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    not near you
    Posts
    146

    Default

    I use the FAT tips from Profax....They are like 5/16 diameter...They are too short for the miller gun but if you make an adaptor extension they work well and have enough bulk so they don't overheat and sieze up.Good luck...

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Warning: Non-static method PhpQuickProfiler::getMicroTime() should not be called statically in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/pqp/classes/Console.php on line 77

Warning: Non-static method PhpQuickProfiler::getMicroTime() should not be called statically in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/pqp/classes/Console.php on line 77

Warning: Non-static method PhpQuickProfiler::getMicroTime() should not be called statically in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/pqp/classes/Console.php on line 77

Warning: Non-static method PhpQuickProfiler::getMicroTime() should not be called statically in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/pqp/classes/Console.php on line 77

Warning: Non-static method PhpQuickProfiler::getMicroTime() should not be called statically in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/pqp/classes/Console.php on line 77

Warning: Non-static method PhpQuickProfiler::getMicroTime() should not be called statically in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/pqp/classes/Console.php on line 77

Warning: Non-static method PhpQuickProfiler::getMicroTime() should not be called statically in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/pqp/classes/Console.php on line 77

Warning: Function split() is deprecated in /mnt/stor3-wc1-dfw1/357822/357839/www.millerwelds.com/web/content/lib/footer.inc.php on line 82

Welding Projects

Special Offers: See the latest Miller deals and promotions.