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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig in Denver View Post
    These guys love pictures, when you start blowing holes, post pics.
    I will definitely post a photo or two of my early weld attempts, but you guys have to promise not to be jealous of my immediate mastery over the process!

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    Should a 40 cubic foot argon tank last me a while?

    Also, do I need a metal welding table or can I use almost anything if I throw a sheet of metal on top and/or a cover it with a high quality welding blanket?

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    a metal table would be best but a sheet of metal over a wooden one would be ok if you add some washers or spacers to keep the steel off the wood. a little air space will keep the table from lighting on fire.
    a 40 will go fast, more so in the learning stage. i would recommend at least a 80, a 125 is still small enough to move around without any trouble. an 80 is essayer. also the larger the tank the cheaper the gas is as the largest part of a fill bill is service. ask your dealer about fill prices and you will see the big advantage to a larger tank.
    thanks for the help
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    I've found a sense of humor fits in everywhere in life.

    "but you guys have to promise not to be jealous of my immediate mastery over the process!"
    I promise: "If you pull this off, I WILL hate you."
    My earlier 'good luck' was not meant to include immediate success.

    My tank is 51" to the top, including valve. I don't have a clue what CF that is, don't remember. It's not very portable but if you don't need portability, bigger is better (like fun4now said). This doesn't include the hastle of running out mid project (Sunday afternoon) and vechicle travel time at $3 a gallon. Someone else said, "If they can't get it to my shop, I don't weld it."

    "Also, do I need a metal welding table or can I use almost anything "
    Sometimes, I sit on a wood box and weld on a milk crate. Not so obvious tip: it's not just a 'foot' pedal. If I have to sit on the floor, I put the pedal under my bent knee, etc.
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    i have a 12"X48"X1/2" plate i use when i'm not at my welding table but need a table (other shop or yard, my table is about 1,000 lbs) i have a 80qft tank and a 125qft tank. taking into account its 100mil. round trip to fill i wish i had more.
    thanks for the help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig in Denver View Post
    I promise: "If you pull this off, I WILL hate you."
    I can live with that.

    OK. I'm thinking I'll start with an 80CF cylinder then. I believe those are around 3 feet tall which is within reason of portability. If I find it consistantly runs out too fast, I'll buy another 80 CF. Then I'll have one full when the other runs out which gives me flexibility on when I get the refill.

    Which I guess leads the question a little... is there a way to tell when a cylinder is about to run out? Or do you just have to risk running out in the middle of a weld and screwing it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fun4now View Post
    i have a 12"X48"X1/2" plate i use when i'm not at my welding table but need a table
    That thing must weigh a bit all by itself. Is it stainless steel? I'm just thinking that if I work with aluminum, I'd want a stainless steel surface I guess?

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    yep, its not light. no its not SS that would be nice.
    80qft tank is about 36" 125 is about 45" both about 7-8" Di.
    thanks for the help
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    "is there a way to tell when a cylinder is about to run out? Or do you just have to risk running out in the middle of a weld and screwing it up?"

    Well, the 125CF bottle (thx fun4now) comes full at about 2000lbs. The gauge is ok down to the last 100lbs or so. Maybe you've got 20" to 30" of welding left (just guessing). Then it's kinda just luck. You don't need much pressure to run 15-20cfh.

    Since I only weld brackets, widgets and gizmos; I weld till I can't. You'll know. An early symptom is a black/blue tungsten from lack of post flow. Besides, it's a welder; change bottles, grind it out and fix it. Welding gives you that option, too cool. With a welder and grinder, it's hard to screw it up. Heat exchangers excluded.

    Oh, arc length should be about 1/8", sorta tricky when you're poking the filler rod around in there.

    PS When I started TIG, I watched the pro at the motorcycle shop using 1/16" rod. He made it look easy (sound familiar?). I spent many hours throwing my torch at the garage door, until I tried 3/32". Holy cwap, what a difference! That day, I said to myself; "Hey, I can weld aluminum!"
    Last edited by Craig in Denver; 01-30-2008 at 08:50 PM. Reason: Added PS
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    I just placed an order for a TA185 from IOC. Woot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig in Denver View Post
    PS When I started TIG, I watched the pro at the motorcycle shop using 1/16" rod. He made it look easy (sound familiar?). I spent many hours throwing my torch at the garage door, until I tried 3/32". Holy cwap, what a difference! That day, I said to myself; "Hey, I can weld aluminum!"
    I also ordered some 1/16" aluminum rod since it matches roughly what I will be tinkering with. Maybe I should also pick up some 3/32" it sounds like? Why would the 3/32" be easier to weld with than the 1/16"?

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