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    Default Mig guns

    Anyone try a Bernard Q gun inplace of a M25?

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    Anybody tried a search for Bernard Q Guns?

    MUCH has been discussed, to include converting an M25 to Bernard front end consumables.
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    Default Right Stuff

    Hey guys,

    Miller makes some nice GMAW guns. I have been using a 450 amp gun for years (20+). However, Bernard has the RIGHT STUFF in their Q series. Check out their link. It can be hard to locate sometimes: http://www.bernardwelds.com/service/specs.html
    Last edited by HAWK; 03-26-2011 at 05:04 PM.

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    Cool Working at the moment

    Well,

    The Bernard site seems to fade in and out. I think it has something to do with loading Adobe Acrobat Reader. It has been this way for several years. I have had many a discussion with sales reps in hopes of getting word back to a Bernard tech in the right place. Oh well. It is still a GREAT product!
    Last edited by HAWK; 03-26-2011 at 05:03 PM. Reason: Punctiation probs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SundownIII View Post
    Anybody tried a search for Bernard Q Guns?

    MUCH has been discussed, to include converting an M25 to Bernard front end consumables.
    I have never tried converting a Miller gun to the Bernard front end guts, but I don't think it hurts to have at least a "few" extra guns in the shop. I always leave extra guns ready to weld on the truck. Good paying customers should not have to pay for down time, but... I have never had a Bernard or Miller gun go down-maybe a contact tip here and there. Just regular maintenance-of course.

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    I have not tried the smaller qguns but I do have a q400 That I use regularly and I like it way better than the Tweco`s I have used for years. I think it is more comfortable. The tips last longer and the gas difuser also because there are no threads to gall up or wear out. The only downside is that the tip stick out is not adjustable aside form either grinding a nozzle down or buying an assortment of tips and nozzles. I tend to run flush all the time anyway so it is not too big a deal for me. Anyway, I like the Bernards better than any others I have used overall.

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    We have an assortment of leads at our shop, a few magnums, a couple miller rough necks, and mostly bernards. All the guns are converted to bernard center fire style. We have very little problems with them. I replace the tip when i run a roll of wire out and it burns into the tip, but that is normally the only time i have to replace it. They recently changed the nozzle design the insulation does not come as far out so when you clean it it does not get tore up making the nozzles last longer. as far as gun style i like the the rough neck c series it is slimer than the bernards. Both seem to hold up very well. most of our leads are going on six years old being drug around on a suit case in and out of tanks. so they take a beating. The magnums do not seem to hold up as well. I do not like them much at all. But i would say if your thinking of going to bernards you would not be disapointed, or at least bernard consumables.

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    Hmmmm I must get busy making an adapter to mount my centerfire to my old Millermatic 35. Hearing all of the good reviews about the centerfires only makes me want to get using mine all the more. Now if I could only figure out how to invent time, time to make the adapter is hard for me to come by.
    Blondie (Owner C & S Automotive)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie_486 View Post
    Hmmmm I must get busy making an adapter to mount my centerfire to my old Millermatic 35. Hearing all of the good reviews about the centerfires only makes me want to get using mine all the more. Now if I could only figure out how to invent time, time to make the adapter is hard for me to come by.
    Blondie;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie_486 View Post
    Hmmmm I must get busy making an adapter to mount my centerfire to my old Millermatic 35. Hearing all of the good reviews about the centerfires only makes me want to get using mine all the more. Now if I could only figure out how to invent time, time to make the adapter is hard for me to come by.
    Check your LWS we go through gts/welco for everything and they were able to come up with a conversion for all of our guns.

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