Whoever came up with this set-up is a friggen' retard. They are so freeakin' brite and they all look too close to the same.
Hobart still has all the normal stuff that we USED to have HERE.
I still cannot track the threads I posted on, and all in all I pretty much HATE it enuff, that I spend VERY LITTLE time here these days.
Miller just changes crap for no good reason IMO.