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    Question Keeping Hood Lenses Clean when Working with SMAW or FCAW

    Greetings,

    I am having a big problem keeping my lenses clean on my miller digital elite helmet when doing SMAW or FCAW. I was wondering if anyone could offer any tips. It seems like after a short time (often only a couple long welds) the flux has built up on the lens so much that it makes it hard to see the puddle. Perhaps its my head position or weld position that is off. I am not a pro welder, just a hobbyist, so I am most likely doing something wrong. When using FCAW or SMAW, I find I **** my head to one side and get pretty low to see the puddle and what it is doing. I tried backing off but then the MIG gun obscured the weld puddle and I was practically welding blind with ... predictable ... results.

    So anyone have any idea what i am doing wrong or is this a common problem that someone knows a good tip on?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Ventilation . Keep a fan on low speed drawing the smoke away from the weld not by your helmet. Also, stabilize your arms for steadiness and keep your head further away. Dave

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    Keeping you head out of the smoke is the key. Make sure you don't cause a draft across the weld area itself though or you will get allot of porosity.

    Scott
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    It seems that getting stuff on the helmet and lens is inevitable, unless there is a good way to exhaust the smoke. I wipe down my helmet with ArmorAll, both in and out and it makes cleaning it much easier.

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    Cool

    I stick weld in tool and die 8-12 hours a day and don't get any smoke on my hood. The guy next to me gets his covered and is always complaining he can't see because of the film. He asks how i keep mine so clean and i say i keep my head out of the smoke and use my arms out farther. I bought my hood in '79 and it still looks like new but it has 32 years of use on it...
    Bob Wright, Grandson of Tee Nee Boat Trailer Founder
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    Spool Gun conversion. How To Do It. Below.
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    Ok. Setting up a draft is a good idea. I can try that. So what is the best way to clean the lens now that it is dirty?

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    Default "Anti-Fog"

    Quote Originally Posted by kraythe View Post
    Greetings,

    I am having a big problem keeping my lenses clean on my miller digital elite helmet when doing SMAW or FCAW. I was wondering if anyone could offer any tips. It seems like after a short time (often only a couple long welds) the flux has built up on the lens so much that it makes it hard to see the puddle. Perhaps its my head position or weld position that is off. I am not a pro welder, just a hobbyist, so I am most likely doing something wrong. When using FCAW or SMAW, I find I **** my head to one side and get pretty low to see the puddle and what it is doing. I tried backing off but then the MIG gun obscured the weld puddle and I was practically welding blind with ... predictable ... results.

    So anyone have any idea what i am doing wrong or is this a common problem that someone knows a good tip on?

    Thanks in advance.
    Torch Wear makes an "Anti-Fog" lens cleaning paste that you apply to new lens covers, and helps significantly. I use my old trusty Fibre-Metal Pipeliner hood for SMAW, FCAW, and CAC-A, and save the $$$$$ Miller Hood for GTAW and MIG. The lens covers can get expensive for those "Big Window" hoods.

    I think Cyberweld sells the Torch Wear Lens paste.
    "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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    Default I'm Blind

    Take your face out of the Puddle

    They gave you arms so don't have to put your face in the puddle.... Increase your face to puddle distance by the length of your arms
    Bobcat 225
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    Hillbilly69,
    That's good advice provided you can see at that distance. Myself if I weld that far away I can't see well enough to weld.

    As davedarragh has said I only use my "Big Window Elite" for TIG welding. For everything else I use a 25.00 Jackson helmet. By the way the new Jackson headgear is a big improvement over the original.

    The clears for the Big Window Elite are expensive in my opinion but the clears for the Jackson are cheap, I think I pay somewhere between .50 and .75 a piece for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMW View Post
    Everything that others have said. Buy a stack of replacements, they are cheap. I clean mine with my hand, my glove, my shirt, etc., whatever is fastest. When they get to really scratched I put new ones in. Sometimes I can't believe the difference when I change the clears.
    I know what you mean. I go for a while without changing my lens protector then when I finally think to the next bead is always way bright and like HD clear.

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