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    Question Alumiweld Rod for wleding aluminum ??

    Any input on this rod for welding aluminum I was told you can use a propane torch or O/A to weld with this rod

    got a aluminum water tank and it's not important that it hold high pressure
    or that the weld even looks good just needs to fix the seapage it has under about 10 psi was told this rod will work as good as tigging it

    has any one used this rod before and how was the outcome of it is it all that they claim??

    Thanks for any input on this

    CH!

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    Are you talking about "alumaloy". If so 10psi is a tall order for that stuff.
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    Red face Call a plumber

    IMO it is CRAP.
    It is solder. It has been around forever. People simply took an existing product and changed the way it was marketed. It simply has a lower melting point than aluminum and adheres to non-ferrous metals.
    It requires virtually the same prep as welding.
    Something as large as a tank may require a good deal of heat depending on the mass of the area you are working with.
    Using that product could have some benefits such as working with an area that may have corroded thru.
    If it is somewhere that a weld has failed then I doubt it will help much.
    Everyone expects this to work with propane....that is seldom the case. you could spend the rest of you life heating it and never get it hot enuff to work unless it is small and thin (like a pop can) It is used with MAPP gas and they don't tell you unless you ask.
    If this tank has water in the area of repair it must be removed before anything will work.
    In the 14 years I have operated an Aluminum only welding biz I have never once used this product. When I encounter a situation that this is the only way to get by I would submit a bid for a permanent repair (like a patch) instead..... IMO solder is for plumbers and fusion is for welders!

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    Thanks for the input guys never mess with it just heard about it thought id ask about it was going to pick some up just to fart around with it a bit before trying any repair to the tank in this case it really is cheaper just picking up a used tank any way besides its not really an important project

    And Thanks for chiming in it is appreciated.

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    It's not total crap. If you need to fix holes in your beer cans it just might be the ticket. Tip..You have to drink the beer first. The more beer you drink, the better you wil become. Just think... A mobile beer can soldering rig. Initial
    cost to get going is low.
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    I agree and disagree with the previous posts. I've used this product in the past and it works if used for its' intended purpose. It's not a replacement for a good aluminum weld but if you need to build up a lug area ( like a broken lug on an alternator mount), it will work if you follow the application procedures. It's also useful in repairing aluminum door handles and window hardware. I have done so and been successful. This was before I got a tig machine, however.

    I'll still use it if the item to be repaired lends itself to the product. As for sealing a leak in an aluminum container, I don't think you'll have any problems. If properly applied, it should withstand 10 psi easily. This stuff sets up pretty hard and if the base is properly cleaned, heated, and the rod is used as per the instructions, you get a strong bond.

    This is just my experience though. Each person will have their own belief as to whether it works for them or not.

    In addition, I don't think I would call this an aluminum welding rod. To me it is more like an aluminum brazing rod.
    Last edited by Old Sporty; 02-09-2010 at 03:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyHorse! View Post
    Any input on this rod for welding aluminum I was told you can use a propane torch or O/A to weld with this rod

    got a aluminum water tank and it's not important that it hold high pressure
    or that the weld even looks good just needs to fix the seapage it has under about 10 psi was told this rod will work as good as tigging it

    has any one used this rod before and how was the outcome of it is it all that they claim??

    Thanks for any input on this

    CH!
    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyHorse! View Post
    02-09-2010 09:08 AM
    CrazyHorse! Thanks for the input guys never mess with it just heard about it thought id ask about it was going to pick some up just to fart around with it a bit before trying any repair to the tank in this case it really is cheaper just picking up a used tank any way besides its not really an important project

    And Thanks for chiming in it is appreciated.

    CH!

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyHorse! View Post
    Yesterday 12:22 PM
    CrazyHorse! Well I pretty much abandon the idea of using it to patch the tank

    But i just might take some advice here and pick up a few houndred pounds of it and start my own emergency mobile beer can repair service


    But on a more serious note I may just pick some up to just fart around with it and see how it works.

    any way here is a link to HF store where i found some

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44810

    Hey Guys Sorry did not mean to open a can of worms here have not ever tried the product just wanted some input on it.

    and I am pretty aware of product advertising as sometimes I refer to as (FIB-ER-Tising) that some thing that sound to good to be true are just that to good to be true.
    I don't always read between the lines on products such as this and I am sure it has its place but like I said it is just cheaper to replace the tank with a used one which is more cost effective than repairing it.

    although I will still pick some of this product up just to try it out and see where it may have its uses for me if at all any.

    Thanks again
    CH!

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    CrazyHorse....heck You didn't open up anything except normal discussion IMO.
    Don't sweat it....Good thread as far as I am concerned
    Every one gave their honest opinion and you got some great input too.

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    Hey CH,
    I agree with FusionKing that you did not open any can of worms & your query would enlighten those who have no experience with this type of rod. That said... it has a place. There is a tremendous amount of the so-called "potmetal" that is a garbage diecast in use everywhere from home appliances to the auto industry.

    Just to give an example of easy $$$ that can be made. My boss's wife had (2) extremely decorative plant tables on their patio that was given her by her late father. All painted in antique green/charcoal that were really nice. She bumped the first one with a sweeper & knocked it over & broke it in (3) places in the middle of the frame. The second one broke after getting blown over by a wind gust. My boss brought them in & asked if I could fix them since I do all our companys' aluminum welding at my home shop. I indicated to him that I could do them, although it takes a special rod & the welds would need to be re-contoured to the frame design & that would take some work. He asked how much & I said $100 each considering the time to prep, weld, & re-contour to original shape of the broken joints. He said ok as these were his wifes' most precious gifts from her father & would pay that to get them restored. So, I used the HTS-735 I have & the repairs came out superb. It works well once you get the "feel" of flame/heat control with diecast and being not careful would result in huge blob falling off if heated too much. It takes some practice. Anyway, get some to try & maybe practice if you can get some scrap pieces. Gotta be as clean as regular aluminum welding.

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    Yorkiepap..great post makes me wish someone would bring me some of that junk (potmetal) so I can use some of that "crap" rod!
    Glad you are hanging out here with us!! Keep it up

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