Help me choose a welding positioner please..

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I've got to order one of these in the next couple days, and it seems these two are very close in comparison.

I don't have the time or patience to build one, I just want to get moving, with a project and need one yesterday...

Anyhow, this will be my first positioner, and don't really know what to look for..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Light-Duty-Weldi...3286.m20.l1116

Or....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190317982894

Personally I like the second one because it already has a chuck that I need..
It also just looks like a cleaner build.

Thanks, and please point out any things I may be missing.

[aametalmaster]

They both look good and btw the chucks are only 50 some bucks if you want the first one...Bob

[griff01]

I've got to order one of these in the next couple days, and it seems these two are very close in comparison.

I don't have the time or patience to build one, I just want to get moving, with a project and need one yesterday...

Anyhow, this will be my first positioner, and don't really know what to look for..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Light-Duty-Weldi...3286.m20.l1116

Or....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190317982894

Personally I like the second one because it already has a chuck that I need..
It also just looks like a cleaner build.

Thanks, and please point out any things I may be missing.

The first one says "Euro" model. Be sure to check the specs because if it is indeed built for Europe, it is likely a 50Hz.

The second one is now gone.

Griff

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The first one says "Euro" model. Be sure to check the specs because if it is indeed built for Europe, it is likely a 50Hz.

The second one is now gone.

Griff

The first is offered in both Euro and USA, checked on that.

The second is available direct from the manufacturer, I've talked with them on the phone. They just don't have that exact model listed on Flea bay right now.

Thanks for pointing those facts out though.

[SundownIII]

Both appear to be well built, servicable units. Depends on what you need to do. The first one has a much higher rated capacity than the second one. Generally, a higher rated capacity means it's "heavier duty".

I'd also suggest you check out the Atlas positioners. They've been around for quite a while. I use their model 100 which is a light duty model, but they have units that would compare favorably to the ones you listed.

[Broccoli1]

WP-1 from ACP
http://www.acprecision.com/wp1spec.htm

Arc Zone- USA Model

http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=6514

[WCE Designs]

I like the Aircrafter I still use a 30 year old one . The new ones look nice.
http://www.mkprod.com/Prod_sub_Positioners.htm

wcedesigns.com

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Hmmm..

For the extra 150 dollars it would probably be advisable to go with the heavier duty unit, I just can't find any reviews or different pictures showing its construction..

AC unit 90 lbs machine weight

Arc zone unit 115 lbs machine weight

I'll probably never use the extra capacity, but should I get the lighter duty unit I'm sure the heavy work will be right around the corner..

[Blondie_486]

Hmmm..

For the extra 150 dollars it would probably be advisable to go with the heavier duty unit, I just can't find any reviews or different pictures showing its construction..

AC unit 90 lbs machine weight

Arc zone unit 115 lbs machine weight

I'll probably never use the extra capacity, but should I get the lighter duty unit I'm sure the heavy work will be right around the corner..

If you can forsee heavier work around the corner go for the heavier capacity model, you'll be glad you did if the heavy work comes along. It doesn't hurt to have more than you need as much as it hurts to need more than you have.

Just my 2 cents

[Wicked one]

Hmmm..

For the extra 150 dollars it would probably be advisable to go with the heavier duty unit, I just can't find any reviews or different pictures showing its construction..

AC unit 90 lbs machine weight

Arc zone unit 115 lbs machine weight

I'll probably never use the extra capacity, but should I get the lighter duty unit I'm sure the heavy work will be right around the corner..

Do you have a red-d-arc rentals in your area? I bought mine from there for 1200 bucks Canadian. It has a 6" chuck and a purge through spindle forward and reverse and speed adjustment. When I bought it there was 4hrs. on it. I believe it's an RP-1 I've spun a meter of 4" sch160 stainless with a 5000# rtj flange on it with no counter weights. It spins fast enough for 6010 and slow enough for 3/4 " but welds with tig. It's one of those tools I don't use all the time but when I do it's a money maker. I believe their website is www.reddarc.com