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  1. #1
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    Default Help me choose a welding positioner please..

    I've got to order one of these in the next couple days, and it seems these two are very close in comparison.

    I don't have the time or patience to build one, I just want to get moving, with a project and need one yesterday...

    Anyhow, this will be my first positioner, and don't really know what to look for..

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Light-Duty-Weldi...3286.m20.l1116

    Or....

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190317982894

    Personally I like the second one because it already has a chuck that I need..
    It also just looks like a cleaner build.

    Thanks, and please point out any things I may be missing.
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    Cool

    They both look good and btw the chucks are only 50 some bucks if you want the first one...Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkered Flag View Post
    I've got to order one of these in the next couple days, and it seems these two are very close in comparison.

    I don't have the time or patience to build one, I just want to get moving, with a project and need one yesterday...

    Anyhow, this will be my first positioner, and don't really know what to look for..

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Light-Duty-Weldi...3286.m20.l1116

    Or....

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190317982894

    Personally I like the second one because it already has a chuck that I need..
    It also just looks like a cleaner build.

    Thanks, and please point out any things I may be missing.
    The first one says "Euro" model. Be sure to check the specs because if it is indeed built for Europe, it is likely a 50Hz.

    The second one is now gone.

    Griff

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    Quote Originally Posted by griff01 View Post
    The first one says "Euro" model. Be sure to check the specs because if it is indeed built for Europe, it is likely a 50Hz.

    The second one is now gone.

    Griff

    The first is offered in both Euro and USA, checked on that.

    The second is available direct from the manufacturer, I've talked with them on the phone. They just don't have that exact model listed on Flea bay right now.

    Thanks for pointing those facts out though.
    Two Dynasty 350's with Wireless pedals
    Victor O/A
    Profax 250 weld positioner
    Bridgeport mill
    Logan Turret lathe
    RMD tubing bender
    Enco vertical saw
    Baileigh Auto cold saw
    IR 80 Gal dual stage compressor
    Misc Fab equipment

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    Both appear to be well built, servicable units. Depends on what you need to do. The first one has a much higher rated capacity than the second one. Generally, a higher rated capacity means it's "heavier duty".

    I'd also suggest you check out the Atlas positioners. They've been around for quite a while. I use their model 100 which is a light duty model, but they have units that would compare favorably to the ones you listed.
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    I like the Aircrafter I still use a 30 year old one . The new ones look nice.
    http://www.mkprod.com/Prod_sub_Positioners.htm

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    Last edited by WCE Designs; 09-28-2009 at 10:50 AM.

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    Hmmm..

    For the extra 150 dollars it would probably be advisable to go with the heavier duty unit, I just can't find any reviews or different pictures showing its construction..

    AC unit 90 lbs machine weight

    Arc zone unit 115 lbs machine weight

    I'll probably never use the extra capacity, but should I get the lighter duty unit I'm sure the heavy work will be right around the corner..
    Two Dynasty 350's with Wireless pedals
    Victor O/A
    Profax 250 weld positioner
    Bridgeport mill
    Logan Turret lathe
    RMD tubing bender
    Enco vertical saw
    Baileigh Auto cold saw
    IR 80 Gal dual stage compressor
    Misc Fab equipment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkered Flag View Post
    Hmmm..

    For the extra 150 dollars it would probably be advisable to go with the heavier duty unit, I just can't find any reviews or different pictures showing its construction..

    AC unit 90 lbs machine weight

    Arc zone unit 115 lbs machine weight

    I'll probably never use the extra capacity, but should I get the lighter duty unit I'm sure the heavy work will be right around the corner..
    If you can forsee heavier work around the corner go for the heavier capacity model, you'll be glad you did if the heavy work comes along. It doesn't hurt to have more than you need as much as it hurts to need more than you have.

    Just my 2 cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkered Flag View Post
    Hmmm..

    For the extra 150 dollars it would probably be advisable to go with the heavier duty unit, I just can't find any reviews or different pictures showing its construction..

    AC unit 90 lbs machine weight

    Arc zone unit 115 lbs machine weight

    I'll probably never use the extra capacity, but should I get the lighter duty unit I'm sure the heavy work will be right around the corner..
    Do you have a red-d-arc rentals in your area? I bought mine from there for 1200 bucks Canadian. It has a 6" chuck and a purge through spindle forward and reverse and speed adjustment. When I bought it there was 4hrs. on it. I believe it's an RP-1 I've spun a meter of 4" sch160 stainless with a 5000# rtj flange on it with no counter weights. It spins fast enough for 6010 and slow enough for 3/4 " but welds with tig. It's one of those tools I don't use all the time but when I do it's a money maker. I believe their website is www.reddarc.com
    Last edited by Wicked one; 09-28-2009 at 06:54 PM. Reason: correct website

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