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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    I hope all goes well for you tomorrow. It sounds like you have things sorted out. Post some pictures after it is done and be careful.
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    I'll second that. Good luck and be safe.I'm sure you'll do just fine. Btw when I reply to a post like this I hope the poster takes constructive critism well . Most of us just don't want to see you get yourself in a pickle.
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    they wouldn't allow any work there today, so they pushed the crane off until wednsday. i'll be up there 5am tomorrow.

    heres a pic from saturday
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    Just for fun. How did you weld them?
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    mig. ended up to be 44 linear inches of 3/8" fillet around each pad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkerMetalworks View Post
    mig. ended up to be 44 linear inches of 3/8" fillet around each pad.
    If you get time and think about it, I for one would be very interested in seeing a picture of the padeyes. I have done this type of work my entire career. Iíve come to the conclusion there is more than one way to design a padeye. Iím confident Iíve seen it all, but you just never know. Iíve seen padeyes that made me want to leave the county before the pick was made, and Iíve seen engineered padeyes that just floored me on how stout they were designed. Interesting work! (To me anyway)

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    One of the biggest failures I was ever around was an engineered deal, I asked before we did it, had a gut feeling but they the ones with the degree. Crap happens fast though.

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    heres the uphill (the 3/4" plate was welded at the shop)


    and the overhead
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    Thanks for posting the pictures!
    Iím a little surprised that you didnít go with gussets. I think it was you, or maybe someone else posted about using a T shaped padeye, I was all for that! Iíve welded lots of engineered padeyes made from T shape. Just cut two slots in the top for the bail of the shackle to insert into. Cut a hole in the web for the shackle pin.

    I know youíre a little defensive with some of the comments you have received. But Iíd add more weld, and a lot hotter! Then again Iím not a big fan of Mig, even tho Iíve passed numerous structural DT tests with Mig, just not a big fan!

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    Maybe I should clarify about my statement of making more weld: Not so much on the doubler plate, but the padeye itís self. I would also weld all the way around!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkerMetalworks View Post
    heres the uphill (the 3/4" plate was welded at the shop)


    and the overhead

    I've been reading this as it's unfolded. Not being an engineer or rigger, I didn't have anything to add to the discussion about how many eyes or where, etc.

    I don't like to rain on anyone's parade and don't take this the wrong way but, I gotta speak up...

    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your fillets joining the two 3/4" plates are WAY UNDERSIZED for that size t-joint. Fillet weld leg lengths should be 3/4" minimum on each leg for that plate size, if that is 3/4" plate. Those look to be about 1/4" to 3/8" fillet legs. You need to go back and put at least 3 more passes in on each fillet to fill them up to proper size, probly more like 5 more passes. I would weld them around the ends too.

    The vertical tank to plate fillets look good, but are also undersized. They look to be maybe 1/4" leg length at most, hard to tell from the pic. I would go back and put 2 more passes over those. Also, they don't look hot enough to me have good penetration and fusion with that thick plate. Together with being undersized, you have an insufficient strength joint there, in my opinion.

    The overhead tank to plate fillets don't look like they grabbed very much of the tank. Most of the bead is on the plate, though they do look a little more wet in to the plate than the verticals do. They're too small too. I would go back and put 2 more passes in on those too. Going by the rest of it, I would put in 2 more passes on the horzontal joints on top too.

    Your beads look nice overall, but overall I don't think you have nearly enough weld in there holding all that together. Please don't be offended or think I'm trying to be over critical. I just don't think those are stuck on there good enough considering what they'll be used for.

    What wire size and type did you use? What volt/speed settings?

    On plate that size with a mig, you should be using spray transfer. The beads and spatter around them look like short circuit transfer to me. Not hot enough for that size material to give good penetration and fusion.

    Crank 'er up and fill 'er up, bro!

    Standard fillet weld sizing- Each leg of the fillet in a t-joint should be at minimum equal to the thickness of the thinnest plate in the joint.
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