vice: " a serious moral failing, wicked or evil habits or conduct, corruption..."
vise: " a clamping apparatus of metal or wood, usually two jaws opened or closed by a screw............"
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Thread: broken Vice !! need help!!
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06-04-2009, 01:34 PM #21
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06-04-2009, 02:07 PM #22
HF Vise???
I would steer away from the HF vise, I bought one last year trying to stretch my dollar for as many things as I could. I striped the threads out of it in about 4 months and I wouldn't consider myself a frequent extreme user... Anvils are for beating, presses are for squeezing, and vises are for holding. I have broken too many vises using them for the above when I did use and abuse them more often.
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Kirk W.
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06-04-2009, 02:45 PM #23
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Aren't the better vises, which you can beat on to some reasonable extent, cast steel, where the cheapies are cast iron? I welded up one of the cheapies in a school a long time ago, after some students mistook it for an anvil. Not only was the slide broken, but so was the acme-threaded screw, which turned out to be cast iron, too! The students did abuse it, but it was a pretty poor piece to begin with, even though it was a big, stout-looking unit.
I can see why Wilton would be leery of offering much of a warranty, after seeing how vises are treated. Manufacturers of speed equipment for cars often give no warranty for anything beyond factory defects.
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06-04-2009, 07:20 PM #24
vice: " a serious moral failing
well that explains my use of the vice instead of vise.
i did do a fair amount of beating on it. i mean come on, it has that nice lil flat spot on the top for beating on. it has to be for beating on, its not a big enough flat spot to stack stuff on. so what else is a flat spot for ?? stacking on and beating on right.
(2nd pic)
OK so back to the VISE . i got it apart and here are a few pic's. ( still have not cleaned it yet.)
I'm not seeing this as an easy braise job. any idea if i could get a replacement part ??
i want my vise back....
every time i go to weld or grind or almost anything i miss it!!!
i gotta agree about the HF versions .thanks for the help
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hope i helped
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06-04-2009, 07:31 PM #25
Vise or Vice ?
Hello; I Do Not think you are going to Braze that baby ?

Me Thinks some Ni Rod is in order for that repair !!!
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06-04-2009, 07:48 PM #26
better pic's.
sorry i lost them in the comp.

yep, i gotta agree its going to need NI rod.
thanks for the help
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hope i helped
feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat.
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06-04-2009, 09:00 PM #27
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Larin vices are commonly sold at tractor supply and other big box stores we have quite a few that we bought and use once and a while for various things. My family owns a fairly large heavy grading,paving and utility company. We use these vices for many things, however the vices we use on a day to day basis in the shop and on the four mechanics and welding trucks are wilton. The Larin vices we have cost about 50 bucks and are probably cheaper to replace than repair, they are solid vices though especially for what you pay.
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06-05-2009, 06:08 AM #28
It's sad that it costs more than $50 for some guys to repair a vise.
No wonder GM is going tit s up so they can bust a union.MillerMatic 140 Auto-Set
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06-05-2009, 06:45 AM #29
i'll check TSC and see if i can find a replacement.
still sad to see it go, i gotta try to bring it back to life. even if its no longer as strong. 90% of the time it just holds something small so i can use a drill or flap disk on it. or hold some thing to weld.
i'll keep ya posted.
thanks for the help
......or..........
hope i helped
feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat.
james@newyorkmetalart.com
summer is here, plant a tree. if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out.
JAMES
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06-05-2009, 08:27 AM #30
Broken Vise
At the fab shop I use to work at, we would use a Ni rod and every other pass burn in a C2-8018 on castings. We would also take our sweet time doing it so the inter pass temp did not get too hot and peen the tar out of it with an air hammer in between passes... an old mill wright taught me that, and while I really have not done any extensive research on it as a weld engineer, it seemed to work then. I would still go to church though before you started

kKirk W.
Weld Engineer
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