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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by sccatech View Post
    ...What I can not understand is that all posts I have read have been in English so why post in Spanish? If he is having someone translate for him they could have written the post in English.
    Dude, you have five posts here, counting this one where you talk about "all the posts [you] have" read here. Been lurking for a few years, have you?

    We've had Spanish posters before. And some of us have replied in Spanish to them. Or are you just concerned that Miller doesn't have enough bandwidth and memory for their website that it can't have threads in more than one language? How thoughtful of you!

  2. #42
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    Thank you for posting using Yahoo babel fish.

    If you would have taken the time to use to start with it would have saved same time.

    Google has a good auto translator also.

    I think you did some nice work, thank you for sharing it with everyone.

    Welcome to the great welding forum of Miller, lots of great people here with lots of knowledge.
    Tim Beeker,
    T-N-J Industries
    (my side bussiness)

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  3. #43
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    Those auto translators are absolute crap.
    Compare this human translation to the robot translation.

    Hello everyone:

    My intention was to share my experience with a project.

    I find some of the comments pitiful. Miller is a global manufacturer that sells and sources from many countries.

    It seems that people are not allowed to express themselves on this forum if they don’t speak English.

    It’s sad to see that kind of discrimination on a forum like this. People assume that America is the land of democracy, but not on this forum.

    It’s a shame that some still think they are the conquerors of the world.

    I'm thankful that a few were able to get some ideas from my contribution. It's my understanding that anyone who follows the rules of the forum can contribute ideas or ask questions. That’s noble, shows intelligence, and integrity.

    Can only an American have ideas and no one else? To those that think negatively of my message, I want to tell you that I pity your lack of humanity, intelligence, and common sense. You're so poor that the only thing you have is the belief that you are superior. But on the inside, you amount to nothing.

    To all the others: My respect and sincerest greetings.

    The malicious comments don’t make me feel bad. On the contrary, they provide assurance that I am better than the jerks.
    I'm going to think of solopripro's message every time I see a native english speaker who *thinks* they can speak english get on here and make a complete mockery of the English language.

    At least solipripro wrote with excellent usage, grammar, spelling, and mechanics. And that's much more important to conveying an idea than the language.

    The following is NOT a robotic translation.

    Voy a pensar del mensaje de solpripro cada vez que veo un maldito ignorante gringo quien supone que pueda hablar ingles, pero no sabe como escribirlo.

    A lo menos solopripro escribió su propio lenguaje con una gramática excelente y eso es más importante para compartir una idea que el idioma / lengua.

    Por favor perdonan los errores del español, lo leo mucho mejor que lo escribió.



    Quote Originally Posted by solopripro View Post
    Hola a todos:

    Yo tuve unicamente la intención de compartir un trabajo que realicé.

    Veo mucha pobreza en algunos comentarios. Miller es una fábrica multinacional con sedes en varios países, donde construye o vende su maquinaria.

    No tenemos derecho los usuarios de este foro a expresar nuestros trabajos, porque no hablamos el inglés. Claro que si.

    Es triste ver la discriminción aún en un foro como este. Se supone que la nación americana es donde predomina la democracia, no podría ser así el foro.

    Lástima que algunos piensen todavía que son como conquistadores del mundo.

    Agradezco a los que han recibido de buena forma mi colaboración, entendiendo que cualquiera que respete las reglas del foro, puede aportar sus ideas o hacer preguntas. Eso es nobleza, inteligencia, integridad.

    O solo un americano puede tener ideas y los demás no. Los que opinaron negativamente a mi mensaje, quiero decirles: los compadezco por su falta de humanidad, de inteligencia, de sentido común. Son tan pobres que lo único que tienen es considerarse mejores que los demás. Pero por dentro, no valen nada.

    A los demás: Mis respetos y saludos cordiales.

    No me desaniman esos malos comentarios, al contrario, me dan coraje para saber que valgo más que otros que son mezquinos.

    TRADUCCION DEL MENSAJE POR YAHOO BABEL FISH:



    Hello to all

    I unique had the intention to share a work that I realised.

    I see much poverty in some commentaries. Miller is a multinational factory with you soothe in several countries, where it constructs or it sells his machinery.

    We do not have right the users of this forum to express our works, because we did not speak the English. Clear that if.

    It is sad to still see the discriminción in a forum like this. One assumes that the American nation is where the democracy predominates, could not be therefore the forum.

    Pity that some still think that they are like conquerors of the world.

    I am thankful to that they have received from good forms my collaboration, understanding that whatever respects the rules of the forum, it can contribute its ideas or make questions. That is nobility, intelligence, integrity.

    Or an American only can have ideas and the other no. Those that thought message negatively, I mean to them: I feel sorry them by its lack of humanity, intelligence, common sense. They are so poor that the unique thing that they have is to consider itself better than the others. But on the inside, they are not worth anything.

    To the others: My warm respect and greetings.

    They do not discourage those bad commentaries to me, on the contrary, give anger me to know that I am worth more than other than are stingy.
    Last edited by Bodybagger; 05-17-2009 at 07:49 PM.

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  4. #44
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    Default Gracias

    De nuevo, doy las gracias a los que entienden que este es una parte de la página de Miller, donde se muestran PROYCETOS DE SOLDADURA.

    No importa quién los haga, de dónde sea.

    Lo importante es compartir nuestros trabajos con los demás.

    No me desenimo al ver las discusiones que se han dado. si algunos consideran que deben discutirse cosas sobre política, inmigrantes, ilegales, drogas o cualquier otro asunto, creo que están en el foro equivocado, porque esto es para los que hacemos trabajos en metal, soldadura, y otras cosas y las queremos compartir por si alguien está interesado en tomar una idea.

    Gracias a todos.

    Solopripro

    In english: Basbel Fish Traductor

    Again, I give thanks to that understand that this it is a part of the page of Miller, where are PROYCETOS OF WELD.

    It does not matter it does who them, from where it is.

    The important thing is to share our works with the others.

    Not me desenimo when seeing the discussions that have occurred. if some consider that things on policy, immigrants, illegal must be discussed, drugs or any other subject, I believe that they are in the mistaken forum, because this is for which we do metal works, weld, and other things we want and them to share in case somebody is interested in taking an idea.

    Thanks to all.

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    Default Gracias por su opinión.

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Sporty View Post
    Solopripo - Thank you for responding to this unfortunate twist to your post. I've stayed out of this whole mess and find some of the comments in it completely despicible. I for one think it's a shame that when a person foreign to the United States posts a welding related thread on a welding site that he is subject to this bigotry. I don't speak Spanish, but understand some of the written language so, I understood what you were kind enough to share with us. Thank you for sharing your work with the members of this site and please don't let some of the less cordial members discourage you from continuing to share with us.

    To the members that got off on the illegal alien tangent -- SHAME ON YOU!!!

    This thread had nothing whatsoever to do with that issue and is not the forum for a discussion of its' merits. If you want to debate that issue, please take it somewhere else.
    Gracias a todos

  6. #46
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    Yes bodybagger,
    I agree the auto translators do a poor job. But they do a good enough job though. I used google translator to decipher your message.

    It is only common curtisy to at least attempt to post in the host language.

    The OP did a fine job on the fabrication and welding.

    The other rants do not belong here.
    Tim Beeker,
    T-N-J Industries
    (my side bussiness)

    Miller Synchrowave 350LX with tigrunner
    Esab 450i with wire feeder
    HH135 mig
    Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 51 plasma cutter
    Miller aircrafter 330 - sold
    Marathon 315mm coldsaw
    vertical and horizontal band saws
    table saw
    Dewalt cut off saw
    Sand blast cabinet
    lots of hand grinders
    Harris torch
    beer fridge

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