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    i have a legend 200 le. older machine a/c d/c. i wonder if i can use a voltage sensing suitcase feeder on this machine? it is a cc machine. any help please.
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    Yes, it is. A VS feeder that is cc/cv capable is what you need to use. You would really be limited to flux core, no solid wire unless all you want to do is spray transfer. I ran my Bobus like that with f/c and CC for quite a while, so I know it will work.
    Don


    '06 Trailblazer 302
    '06 12RC feeder
    Super S-32P feeder

    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
    Esab Multimaster 260
    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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    I don't know what model millers is, but the lincoln ln-25 (expensive but I like it) and the thermal arc hefty/heftyII will both work with it. The only real difference between the two is the lincoln is a little more well made. Most of them are built for cv machines, only a very few will work with cc.
    Lincoln: Eagle 10,000, Weld-Pak HD, Weld-Pak 155, AC-225, LN-25 wirefeeder
    Miller: Syncrowave 250DX Tigrunner
    Westinghouse: 400+ amp AC
    ThermalArc Handy wirefeeder
    1 Harris, 3 Victor O/A rigs
    Arcair gouger
    Too many other power toys to list.

    Do it right, do it once. And in all things ya get what ya pay for.

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    Off th etop of my head, here are some Millers......8VS, 12VS, 12VS xtreme, S-32P...I think any of the old S-32's, 3045FC, and maybe more. The older ones may not be CC/CV...some weren't. My S-23P is the oldest one I have and it is CC/CV.
    Don


    '06 Trailblazer 302
    '06 12RC feeder
    Super S-32P feeder

    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
    Esab Multimaster 260
    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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    dda52, why only a spray transfer? and the flux core, are you talking about self shielded?
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    Yes, self shielded flux core is what I mean....dual shield as well. The reason no short circuit is because of voltage issues coming from the CC. Use CV and it isn't a problem. Yours may do it, but it is doubtful. It just runs hotter in CC that what short circuit will allow for. I could never get mine below globular transfer with solid wire. A unit like the 3045FC might allow short circuit since the feeder is powered by a seperate 115vac feed. Not sure since they were discontinued before I got one. I see them from time to time on Ebay, though.
    Don


    '06 Trailblazer 302
    '06 12RC feeder
    Super S-32P feeder

    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
    Esab Multimaster 260
    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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    ok, thanks man. maybe i just need to finally retire the old boy and get a new trailblazer 275 witha dynasty 200 for a/c stuff. my wife's not gonna want to hear this...lol
    welder_one

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    I wouldn't unless it was absolutely necessary. The AEAD's have just as good an arc as the TB's do....three phase, four pole. Nice and smooth. I cut my teeth on one. You could always fine a stand alone feeder that would run off of the aux power to handle the thin stuff...a MM140 or HH 140 for instance...and use the feeder for big stuff. It can work like that easily and cheaper. I picked up my TB in Nov last year...they ain't cheap.
    Don


    '06 Trailblazer 302
    '06 12RC feeder
    Super S-32P feeder

    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
    Esab Multimaster 260
    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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    well i understand that they are not cheap, but it is also time that i do a little updating. i have owned this machine since '94 and it is getting a little tired. i get the case of "welder envy" on jobsites...lol. i dunno, would the tb be a good machine? i used to do mostly structural steel, and high pressure stuff in the quarries, so all i needed was a stick machine, and generator. now i am doing alot of different stuff that gets time crunching. i would like to update to a big enough feeder that i can feed aluminum in the field, or mig stainless too. what would you suggest for a machine and feeder???
    welder_one

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    www.sicfabrications.com

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    I believe the TB to be the best unit for a wide variety of work. My Bobus Catus did just fine for structural and repair work in the normal range. When I started running big wire, dual shield, and doing abnormal stuff, that is when I went to the TB and man what a difference it made. I got the 302 for the simple fact it is rated at 325 amps in wire mode. Mine has even put out 350 a few times. That extra power makes all the difference when running wire. With stick only on the Bobus, it was never an issue. But, stick is so much better on the TB, that alone will make it worthwhile.

    I run two feeders on my TB302...a 12RC and a Super S-32P vs feeder. I run the 12RC for most everything and the S-32P fof far away from the machine work and big flux core that will not need a lot of voltage adjusting.

    I think I dropped about 5800 or so on my TB and new 12RC and cable. IMO, it was well worth it...swmbo even said that the other day. She wasn't really onboard at first. Now that she is....I'm getting worried.
    Don


    '06 Trailblazer 302
    '06 12RC feeder
    Super S-32P feeder

    HH210 & DP3035 spool gun
    Esab Multimaster 260
    Esab Heliarc 252 AC/DC

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