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08-14-2007, 07:46 AM #11
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08-14-2007, 08:07 AM #12
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Thanks for the compliments guys.
These were done on my Syncrowave 250DX (of course
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Both are 304 SS. The square is 1"x.120" and the round tube is 2"x.065" (16ga).
Base setting on the machine was around 100 but I always use the foot pedal to get it where it feels good for what I'm welding.
Shielding gas is 100% Ar at about 20cfm with a #5 cup, no gas lens. 3/32", 2% Thoriated Tungsten. 1/16" 308 filler on the square tube and fuse welded the round tube.
A huge problem when welding SS can come from pulling the filler rod out of the shielding gas between dips. If you are using filler, make sure you keep the filler close enough to the weld pool to remain inside the gas cloud, if not it will contaminate the weld in a hurry.
I hope that helps.
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08-14-2007, 09:06 AM #13
wile i'm not a pro by any means i have herd to increase the flow and the post flow as well. i do know SS is verry unhappy with air.
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so far my atemps with SS have been good, i increase the flow rate and the post flow times a little when i do SS. although i have done verry little of it, what i have done came out verry nice.
looks like ZTFab has it down pat.
thanks for the help
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hope i helped
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08-14-2007, 05:37 PM #14
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I work for a company that makes airplane engine parts for GE, and Rolls Royce and all the material we use is ethier SS or Inconel 625, and 718. you mentioned back purgeing this will help to keep the HEAT DOWN!!!!! all we use is straight Argon with 5680 welding wire on the stainless. The biggest thing when it comes down too it is the correct heat right size wire and speed too hot and you get what has been happing to you deep grey and nasty lookin weld all of our ss welds turn out a nice golden color, the rainbow color is the pefect heat angle wire and speed. And how we do it for example on a but joint no gap when the two plates fuse then you have the right heat I then ease up a bit but still keep it to a good puddle and just dab the rod into the front of the puddle. If you want to back purge then be carefull because if it is to high then it will blow back at you and then it looks realy bad.
I hope this helps out and makes some since. I will try and get some pics of some ss welds we got on the floor now. Good luckLast edited by cwillis; 08-14-2007 at 05:45 PM. Reason: gramer
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01-30-2008, 10:29 PM #15
Wow
I found this posted 8-14-07 and couldn't let it die. LOOKIT these welds!!
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01-31-2008, 01:12 AM #16
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Use Ceramic welding back up strips for fillet & butt welding. for details www.applicationsystems.net
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01-31-2008, 04:46 AM #17
I work with nothing but stainless and always use a gas lens wherever i can. Be careful as you can have too much flow which causes turbulance, drawing oxygen into the shielding gas. 10-16 lpm should be ample with a lens.
Another factor is surface contamination make sure the metals spotless. We use IPA or solvent.
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01-31-2008, 04:50 AM #18
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Re Shiney Weld
A Sharp Tungstein Will Help. When The Weld Turns Black That Means You Burnt The Chrome Out Of The Stainless .
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01-31-2008, 07:47 AM #19
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I have had better luck with a standard nozzle than a gas lens on stainless. I believe you need to turn up your flow with the GL on stainless and you will get better results. I suspect that because i thought of a GL as a gas saver it made no sense to me to increase the sheilding gas. If you over heat it or fail to sheild it while cooling you will not get the golden color. You should always sheild the back side if it is heated to red hot or better. Argon works best, but solar flux is good too. Its just hard to clean off.
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01-31-2008, 08:33 AM #20
SS seems to cool slower, or just needs shielded longer to. so don't be in a rush to pull to the torch away at the end of the weld, be shore to let the post flow cool the last of the weld.
thanks for the help
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hope i helped
feel free to shoot me an e-mail direct i have time to chat.
james@newyorkmetalart.com
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