I checked out miller4less. Let me have a little time to find the sites and you will see they aren't 4 less. You can buy a Lincoln ProMig 180T at lowes or Home Depot for over 100 less than their price on the , millermatic 175. For welding horseshoes and such the Lincoln Weld-Pak HD would be excellent. It's $249 at Home depot. I've been using one for over a year making repairs on step and balcony railings for apartment complexes with no problems. Much easier to wag around than the 230 volt one.