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    Default Mig wire for hard facing

    I was asked to hardface the side of some buckets on a front loader. I can do the job indoors and would like to use a mig to save some time. my machine will only hold 11# spools or smaller what wire would you recommend?
    Dan
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    Default Hard Facing Flux Core

    Dan: You may be out of luck. I'm looking in Lincoln's book, and 25# spool looks like as small as they go. Keep in mind, most of these wires are 5/64" and larger, so you need a big gun. There are some in .045, but again, 25# spool. Some of these are gas-shielded wires. You can visit Lincoln's website, look under consumables/hardfacing and check them all out.

    Hope this helps

    Dave

    There is one, Lincore 60-G "Severe Abrasion" that comes in .045, in 10# spools, and is gas shielded. May be your best bet.
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    Talking Hardfacing Wire; Part II

    Spcl: Forgot about other brands! I just looked in my RAM Catalogue, and they have .035, .045 sizes in 10#/8" spools with 2" hub. 3 different flavors, 3 different prices. visit www.RamWeldingSupply.com

    Thanky for the info

    Dave
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    Hardfacing electrode is high in Manganese. Don't let the lack of smoke trick you into filling your workspace with Manganese fumes.
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    Dan,

    I'd have to ask the question about whether we're talking about a "front loader" or the front loader bucket on a conventional tractor.

    If you're talking about a "front loader" as in heavy construction equipment, I'd have to question whether you've got enough machine (170 Mig) to do the job correctly. When I think of hardfacing heavy construction equipment, the first thing that comes to my mind is spray transfer. Hardfacing, if not burned in, will not hold up.

    Just my .02.

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    A couple of other things to not when hardfacing with wire feed, some of them contain chromium -very carcinogenic- make sure you have excellent ventilation. Also the wire is generally quite soft (at least the stuff I used was), and nested quite easily in our Miller 350. Look into a 10' whip with a teflon liner, or a push pull gun.

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    Default "Good Eye, Sundown"

    Quote Originally Posted by SundownIII View Post
    Dan,

    I'd have to ask the question about whether we're talking about a "front loader" or the front loader bucket on a conventional tractor.

    If you're talking about a "front loader" as in heavy construction equipment, I'd have to question whether you've got enough machine (170 Mig) to do the job correctly. When I think of hardfacing heavy construction equipment, the first thing that comes to my mind is spray transfer. Hardfacing, if not burned in, will not hold up.

    Just my .02.
    I read right over that one (long night), I just checked my hardface electrode catalogue, and his Dynasty can handle most of the rods (MM, ME, MI, BU).

    Dave
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