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    [QUOTE=dabar39;171281]It looks as if I'm gonna have to recall all 647 trailers built at my location, all this time I thought myself and the other trailer manufacturers had something going with our designs. Boy, I guess we were wrong, 1" tubing and balsa wood was all we ever needed.

    I can not even imagine how great a loss of profits I've had by not using 1" tube for the frames. Just thinking of the money I have spent on what I thought were the proper materials astounds me. I probably would'a been a gazillionaire by now.

    At least it's not too late for me to reinvent the wheel, starting today I will start offering all of my trailers with a 1" square tube truss design frame as it is so much better than what we have commonly seen on the open trailer market. I'm sure all of the other manufacturers will follow this new engineering design as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dabar39 View Post
    At least it's not too late for me to reinvent the wheel, starting today I will start offering all of my trailers with a 1" square tube truss design frame as it is so much better than what we have commonly seen on the open trailer market. I'm sure all of the other manufacturers will follow this new engineering design as well.
    I imagine that it could be made to work -- truss designs with lightweight
    members are used in all sorts of structures. Whether it's economical to
    build or operate, or even do the design work, or whether it's better
    than current practice, is another question...

    Quote Originally Posted by dabar39 View Post
    mk10, I seriously hope your post was made in jest, the same as this reply is intended
    I'll merely note that the "trailer" in question was on the streets
    in a city that is in a country that does things like routinely
    builds substandard schools that collapse in earthquakes,
    or adds poisons to baby formula. I am not so sure that anyone
    in that unnamed country really cares whether a trailer is adequate
    to the job or not - even if it is pulled by bicycle


    I do have a serious question though... Is it "reasonable" to use
    tube for something like a trailer? I'm asking because, it seems to me,
    a tube could corrode from the inside, and you'd never know about it
    until enough material was lost that the member did not have adequate
    strength and then kablooey. (I'm not planning to build a trailer, I have
    neither the need nor the skills -- I'm just curious)

    Thanks in advance

    Frank

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    ok, thanks, I'm all screwed up now. I was just getting ready to buy metal to build a motorcycle trailer using angle iron. Brute throws in the idea of 1" tubing and now the truss design. I mean the motorcycle only weighs 650 lb so I could probably get away with 1/2" X 3/4" tubing, what do ya think. I dont expect to hit any bumps or rough roads in my travels
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBar View Post
    ok, thanks, I'm all screwed up now. I was just getting ready to buy metal to build a motorcycle trailer using angle iron. Brute throws in the idea of 1" tubing and now the truss design. I mean the motorcycle only weighs 650 lb so I could probably get away with 1/2" X 3/4" tubing, what do ya think. I dont expect to hit any bumps or rough roads in my travels
    KBar,

    In light of the recent events I have an announcement to make

    I am currently working on an engineering marvel pertaining to a new design for motorcycle trailers.

    I can't release too many details until the patent goes through,.......... but I can tell you this much, the new motorcycle trailer will be a rather simple concept and it involves two skateboards and a piece of rope. If you can wait long enough for the patent to go through I will gladly send you a copy of the plans.

    Thanks to all who have helped me look outside the box and come up with this new design. Royalties will be paid to all contributing members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabar39 View Post
    KBar,

    In light of the recent events I have an announcement to make

    I am currently working on an engineering marvel pertaining to a new design for motorcycle trailers.

    I can't release too many details until the patent goes through,.......... but I can tell you this much, the new motorcycle trailer will be a rather simple concept and it involves two skateboards and a piece of rope. If you can wait long enough for the patent to go through I will gladly send you a copy of the plans.

    Thanks to all who have helped me look outside the box and come up with this new design. Royalties will be paid to all contributing members.
    HMMMMMMMMMMMM, I wonder ... could that same design for the motorcycle trailer be extended to a car trailer? Then I could take back my new axles I won't have to buy any tubing, Heck I won't even need my welders.........just 4 INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH skateboards a few bungee cords and a DOT rope to Hitch it up with......Cool that'll be less that a Hunnert Dollars!!!I was looking to save a LIL money LOL JIM
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabar39 View Post
    KBar,

    In light of the recent events I have an announcement to make

    I am currently working on an engineering marvel pertaining to a new design for motorcycle trailers.

    I can't release too many details until the patent goes through,.......... but I can tell you this much, the new motorcycle trailer will be a rather simple concept and it involves two skateboards and a piece of rope. If you can wait long enough for the patent to go through I will gladly send you a copy of the plans.

    Thanks to all who have helped me look outside the box and come up with this new design. Royalties will be paid to all contributing members.
    LMAO

    I just hope its a nylon rope so it stretches, that will help in the momentum
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    Default torsion vs walking

    anybody with experience building or pulling trailers chime in. i am looking at a 12 or 14' deck-over trailer, tandem axle(3500#), using a hidden hitch to pull it. the primary uses will be to put my welding skid on it or 2 quads. which would be a better axle to put under it? a torsion axle or a walking style spring axle?
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    I'd suggest posting your question in a new thread. This thread has lost any similance of help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeard's welding View Post
    anybody with experience building or pulling trailers chime in. i am looking at a 12 or 14' deck-over trailer, tandem axle(3500#), using a hidden hitch to pull it. the primary uses will be to put my welding skid on it or 2 quads. which would be a better axle to put under it? a torsion axle or a walking style spring axle?
    Like Jim-TX said, try starting a new thread. You will get a much better response. Also I do not have much experience in the different axle's but I think a lot depends on where you are going to use the trailer, on rough terrain or semi smooth trails or on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim-TX View Post
    I'd suggest posting your question in a new thread. This thread has lost any similance of help.

    Sorry, I had to bump it up 1 more time....it was getting too funny!!!

    Ugh, Dabar...still waiting for my royalty fee, did you forget I was the one
    who sent you the 3,000# bungee cord!!!!!!!!!
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