"Plasma Arc Cutting, Beveling, and Gouging:
· This process has some limitations and must be carefully controlled. If it is used, it requires the power source to be set (DCEN) along with the use of small orifices to gain high velocity and concentrated heat. Heat affected zones will be crack prone particularly for 2XXX, 6XXX, and 7XXX series alloys and will require 1/8 inch or more of mechanical surface removal before welding. Series 1XXX, 3XXX, and 5XXX alloys are not as crack prone and can generally be welded as cut by this process."
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Thread: Cracks in Aluminum Weld
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10-03-2008, 11:02 AM #11
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10-03-2008, 11:12 PM #12
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I was gonna say that too. Unless you are using a shielding gas while plasma cutting, you have to remove most of the HAZ because of the high levels of oxidization that occur. Even when you use shielding gas vs. comp air, the oxidization penetrates more than you would think. Also, I would use a 5356 filler on a 50xx series aluminum. It also looks like you might need to use a little more balance to clean the weld better.
What machine are you using? What tungsten? Balled or pointed? Pulse?Last edited by Blackbird455; 10-04-2008 at 12:00 AM.
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10-04-2008, 09:06 AM #13
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Uhh....

See it now?
The little black pepper looking flakes that float on the top of the puddle turn into stuff that looks like that. Also notice that the white "flash" on the outside of the bead is narrow, meaning only a small amount of DCEN in the cycle, balance adjustment might fix it, but like was said before, if it was plasma cut, there is alot of oxide present, and it needs to be removed before welding.Last edited by Blackbird455; 10-04-2008 at 10:05 PM.
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10-05-2008, 11:32 AM #16
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10-05-2008, 11:33 AM #17
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Pre-heat is not required if you have enough machine.
"Hot cracking" ( that is what this crack is) is influenced by only three things:
1. base alloy chemistry
2. filler alloy
3. joint design
1 and 2 are self explanatory. 3 also includes amount of filler put into the joint.
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10-05-2008, 11:52 AM #19
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10-05-2008, 05:43 PM #20
Looks like more filler is needed to offset the undercut.



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