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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by ace4059 View Post
    huh, thats funny, because we are talking about the same saw, only the makita spins at 1200 rpms and the dewalt 1300 rpms and milwaukee spin at 1500rpms.
    This dewalt spins at 3800 RPM

    http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...roductID=10604


    this Makita spins at 3800 RPM

    http://www2.northerntool.com/power-t...em-1591721.htm


    This Milwaukee Spins at 3900 RPM

    http://www2.northerntool.com/power-t...tem-110862.htm






    Are we talking about the same saws?
    MM 211 W/ Spoolgun
    Diversion 180
    Spectrum 375 X-TREME
    Portable Victor O/A
    Palmgren Bench Drill Press
    14" Evolution Dry Saw
    IR 60 Gal. 3 HP Compressor
    Speedglas 9100x
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  2. #12
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    Not even close!
    They are talking about dry cut saws, with carbide blades, not abrasives.

    My Milwaukee turns 1500 RPM or thereabout.
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    Here is the correct Dewalt.
    http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/to...?categoryID=88

    The Milwaukee was not produced at the time I purchased my DeWalt. I agree with Ace as the table is cheap on the DW and I have even replaced mine twice. I would have jumped on the Milwaukee if it was around when I jumped.

    I did look at the Evoloution units at FabTech and they were a nice machines, if I got a good deal I would not hesitate.

    I cannot comment on Makita as I only own one Makita and it is a cordless dry cut that has done ok but would like new batteries.

    Good luck on your choice

  4. #14
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    I'm glad I asked, I didn't realize that all of the big manufactures made dry saws.
    MM 211 W/ Spoolgun
    Diversion 180
    Spectrum 375 X-TREME
    Portable Victor O/A
    Palmgren Bench Drill Press
    14" Evolution Dry Saw
    IR 60 Gal. 3 HP Compressor
    Speedglas 9100x
    My Brain

  5. #15
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    I find it odd when someone can comment about a product without ....first getting their facts straight. Who here has tried every brand to make a judgement. I've used many tools in my life and can't say which is best. If I use a tool and it doesn't perform well and I'm using it correctly, then I can make a judgement. My POS Dewalt Multicutter does what I expect of it. As long as my POS cuts my metal as I want, I have no reason to go and try other saws. If you're are a testing lab and have controlled tests and some don't pass muster........please report it. If not.........then don't bash without
    facts. I'll put this bit of info with the "overweight person" that has tried every
    diet plan on the planet(yeah shure) and doesn't get results till this new one
    came out. Camel Cookies. Monkey Muffins. Doggy Doo. Horse Hockey. Cow Pies. Catch my drift? How about this........new concept........compare apples
    to apples. Ok...rant over......BUT....don't expect others to take your evaluation as gospel. I will not..........Maybe I just had a bad day
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    All my power and framing tools are Dewalt.But when it came down to the metal cut off saw I opted for the Makita LC-1230.It has a carbide blade that is for metal.It is not a multi cutter like the Dewalts.It will cut through a piece of 2x3 3/16 wall tubing as if it was cutting through a stick of butter.Twenty seconds or less and the cuts are true and cool to the touch.
    George
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    I have used the makita, millwaulkee and dewalt. I have a good friend in the welding business that's used the ones I haven't so I have a pretty good, real world base of experience to work from. And I'm talking about heavy commercial use, not garage use and this is my take:

    I've got a makita, I think it has the best base by far and the best angle adjusment by far. And the 12" blade cuts more square with less deflection than the larger blades.

    I know of dewalt saws that have been in serious industrial use (many days running all day for weeks at a time) for over three years now, the old dogs are battered and abused but still chugging away just fine. But I really hate to have to get an allen wrench and loosen two bolts to adjust to a different angle of cut. The makita has one lever that realeases/locks the backstop.

    My makita only gets used every couple of years, but when we use it we make thousands of cuts, it's well over twenty thousand cuts and works like new. And no, I don't stand there and count the cuts made, but when we quote the job we have a pretty good number for the number of cuts required ; )
    Of all the tools we've ever bought, this one has made us a great return on investment.

    Any of them will do the work, the makita is more of a pleasure to use just because it reeks of high quality.

    JTMcC.
    Some days you eat the bear. And some days the bear eats you.

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    Nick,
    I do NOT expect everyone to take my word as the gospel. EVERYONE has THEIR own opinion.
    And I am giving my advice from experience, not from hearsay. I have not used these saws everyday for thousands of cuts but I have seen then in person, and in action. I have made a few cuts with each one. (dewalt, makita, and milwaukee). So this is my experience and what I think about each one. I was kinda like all the dewalt angle grinders I bought. I thought they were the best until I used the Milaukee, if I ever use a metabo Ill see if I like it. But untill I use the metabo, I am not going to going out a push that one as the "must buy" angle grinder. Right now I would say from my experience I think the milwaukee is very good, but you might want to check into the metabos.


    As you can see I am not the only one that thinks this about the quality of the makitas. I think some people know quality when they use a saw and others dont. no biggie. I am not in it to push only one brand for every tools, because no brand makes all thier tools the best. some brands may make the best saw, and another company may make the best drill. remember, you buy the tool for the quality, not for the name.
    Last edited by ace4059; 10-01-2008 at 10:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny365 View Post
    Are you guys done?

    What I like about the evolution is that is spins at 1400 rpm instead of 3 or 4 thousand.. and I like the idea of cutting metal rather than grinding metal.

    Does anyone here have a saw by Evolution?

    Later
    I believe I said I have one But apparently you were to busy moderating ....Oh well mine still works great Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by uhohjim View Post
    I believe I said I have one But apparently you were to busy moderating ....Oh well mine still works great Jim

    I apologize Jim.

    I went ahead and got the Rage 2 for 225.00 from airgas locally. Cut a few pieces and it does a good job. Money was an issue for me so the price was a deciding factor. Anyways Thanks for all of the input Guys.

    Ben
    MM 211 W/ Spoolgun
    Diversion 180
    Spectrum 375 X-TREME
    Portable Victor O/A
    Palmgren Bench Drill Press
    14" Evolution Dry Saw
    IR 60 Gal. 3 HP Compressor
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