Tubing Roller

[WyoRoy]

jallcorn,
I already have a Compact Bender but that won't do it. Is the Hossfeld actually able to do full circles or 1/2 circles in a 12" diameter? I guess if they have a die that big but that would be a pricey die.
Thanks,
Grumple

Grumple,
Save your money for a good ring roller. I have a Hossfled bender and while it works great for many different operations the price of a 12" die set, if it is even available, would probably be more than a good ring roller. Tubing isn't a Hossfeld's forte. It will get the job done, but not with the ease and accuracy of other benders on the market. The reason...it is a universal bender that needs to encompass a wide range of operations. A Hossfeld bender makes sense if you have a wide range of fabrications you need done, but for simple rolling get a ring roller.

[Broccoli1]

Ed,
Thanks for the link. I guess that would would great with flat stock but thick steel tubing might not be so springy. But its a good trick for the book.
Grumple

How thick are ya talking? If it gets too heavy ya may not have enough Muscle power.

I used this to make the wheel on my Flat Stock roller.

[Broccoli1]

One piece- as it comes around to it's final shape you have to nudge the ends Side by Side.

With Flat stock you have to go over under like Chris showed.

You can try the 12" Ring in one shot- if it doesn't work then you can always just roll the 2 halves. Larger Dia rings should be no problem. At the school they said I couldn't roll the wheel in one shot- they just didn't realize that ya just make the ends pass each other.

One thing for sure is go slowly- any slight screw up because ya applied too much pressure on one pass will make things quite frustrating because it can not be Unrolled.

I did 3- first one perfect, 2nd one got cocky and fubared it, 3rd one all good.






To make rings you need a Roller.

The Hossfeld is an all purpose bender- don't know it it has the ability to be used as a Roller.

Roy?

[WyoRoy]

Eddie,
Hossfeld roller??? Nope. Bender? Yep.

Sometimes it just pays to go out and see what you can find in your scrap pile. If I was having to do a slug of 12" diameter, or was it radius...whatever, bends I would either turn out a 12" die and bending foot on the lathe and bolt/weld them down to the shop welding table and armstrong walk the bending shoe around the square stock and die if there weren't that many to do OR build a roller and take the easy way out. As Ed said, you would have to go easy and probably fubar a few before you got the hang of it. A die set-up would give you greater repeatability at the expense of being a one function/size tool as opposed to the multi-function/size range for the ring roller.

What the heck, this is a fabrication forum...do you really need to buy the tools when the scrap stock is laying around. What the heck, a ring roller is nothing more than three rollers, bearings, bit of shafting, drive for the powered roller(s), frame and either a jack or a feedscrew to adjust pressure for the bend.

http://bullfire.net/WP_Roll_Bender.html

http://www.bbssystem.com//files/barn...roller_745.pdf

[Broccoli1]

True Roy- but the Dies are the biggest hurdle for the average Joe w/o a Lathe.

I know BUY a Lathe


Repeatability is not a problem- it is just a slower process: Apply a little pressure, Roll, apply a little pressure, Roll back- repeat until ya get the Ring.

[WyoRoy]

Eddie,
That why I tossed in those two links for ring rollers. Average guy should be able to crank one out with his shop drill press, band saw and welder. It doesn't have to look pretty...just get the job done. Even a simple ring roller set-up should get the work finished better/faster than my Hossfeld.

BTW, is my recommendation for the Screamin' Broc tool room/machinist mecca w/beer and welding area up at your place of business ever gonna pay dividends?

[Grumple]

Grumple,
Save your money for a good ring roller. I have a Hossfled bender and while it works great for many different operations the price of a 12" die set, if it is even available, would probably be more than a good ring roller. Tubing isn't a Hossfeld's forte. It will get the job done, but not with the ease and accuracy of other benders on the market. The reason...it is a universal bender that needs to encompass a wide range of operations. A Hossfeld bender makes sense if you have a wide range of fabrications you need done, but for simple rolling get a ring roller.

WyoRoy,
What do you consider a good ring roller?
Thanks,
Grumple

[Grumple]

How thick are ya talking? If it gets too heavy ya may not have enough Muscle power.

I used this to make the wheel on my Flat Stock roller.

Ed,
Now thats a nice ring roller and I'll bet out of my reach. Do you own that machine? I have looked at some of those pro models and while nice, I can't justify the cost right now although I would love to have one.
Thanks,
Grumple

[Grumple]

Eddie,
Hossfeld roller??? Nope. Bender? Yep.

Sometimes it just pays to go out and see what you can find in your scrap pile. If I was having to do a slug of 12" diameter, or was it radius...whatever, bends I would either turn out a 12" die and bending foot on the lathe and bolt/weld them down to the shop welding table and armstrong walk the bending shoe around the square stock and die if there weren't that many to do OR build a roller and take the easy way out. As Ed said, you would have to go easy and probably fubar a few before you got the hang of it. A die set-up would give you greater repeatability at the expense of being a one function/size tool as opposed to the multi-function/size range for the ring roller.

What the heck, this is a fabrication forum...do you really need to buy the tools when the scrap stock is laying around. What the heck, a ring roller is nothing more than three rollers, bearings, bit of shafting, drive for the powered roller(s), frame and either a jack or a feedscrew to adjust pressure for the bend.

http://bullfire.net/WP_Roll_Bender.html

http://www.bbssystem.com//files/barn...roller_745.pdf

Thanks for those links...a plan is sometimes all that is needed.
Grumple

[Grumple]

True Roy- but the Dies are the biggest hurdle for the average Joe w/o a Lathe.

I know BUY a Lathe


Repeatability is not a problem- it is just a slower process: Apply a little pressure, Roll, apply a little pressure, Roll back- repeat until ya get the Ring.

Ed,
I just bought a lathe Delivered on Thursday but its not wired or even completely assembled yet and needs leveling and break in. So maybe I will just build me a ring roller. Looks like a fun project.
Thanks,
Grumple